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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe

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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    and how is that?
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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe
    NONSENSE - you're speaking out of your rear end there pal.

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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    yeh i agree mate, bell end springs to mind...
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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Not if it's Kessler. That will just reinforce how good Calzaghe was.

    Froch, Taylor and Abraham wouldn't beat Calzaghe in a million years. Well maybe 1 in 20. No way they could be ranked ahead of him. That would be a travesty.

    Dirrell and Ward are unexposed. So should either piss the comp then naturally they will secure a lofty postion in the history of the 168 division.
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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Not if it's Kessler. That will just reinforce how good Calzaghe was.

    Froch, Taylor and Abraham wouldn't beat Calzaghe in a million years. Well maybe 1 in 20. No way they could be ranked ahead of him. That would be a travesty.

    Dirrell and Ward are unexposed. So should either piss the comp then naturally they will secure a lofty postion in the history of the 168 division.
    I agree with that, although I think were Abraham to win it without tasting defeat, he would be ranked higher, although I don't think he's better if that makes sense. Tbh, although I think the winner may get more credit or have a better resume, I think Calzaghe was a more talented fighter than any of these guys.

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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe
    NONSENSE - you're speaking out of your rear end there pal.[/q
    Id love to hear you explain how Taylor hasnt. And please dont go by JC wins over an over-the-hill Jones and a 86yr old B-hop.

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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe

    I agree with that and I see nothing offensive about this statement. I think people are misunderstanding and think if Jermain Taylor's resume is better than he is better. Jermain Taylor's list of fighters, when he fought them, and how many times he fought them is a better group than Joe Calzaghe's list of fighters when he fought them. This is not to say that Jermain Taylor is the better fighter. Heck, I think we all can agree that Calzaghe is probably a better fighter than Taylor. But who Taylor has fought is a better select group. Actually, Taylor is a throwback fighter. He doesn't even allow himself a tune up fight here and there. Calzaghe's resume is riddled with "tunes up." Taylor's resume is better but Calzaghe is the better fighter. Just about everytime a contender beats a world champion he just showed he was better than the person with a better resume. If we really sit down and compare there are not too many fighters with a better resume than Jermain Taylor. And this is before the Super 6 tournament. So to answer the question. If Jermain Taylor won the Super 6 tournament I think he would without a doubt have a better resume than Joe Calzaghe. The two Andres wouldn't, Kessler would be arguable but only that, Froch and Abraham would probably not have a better resume.
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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe
    No, he doesn't.

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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe

    Apart from 2 close some would say unfair wins over Hopkins what has taylor ever done.

    He has look great in parts of fights but has never put it together for a full fight.
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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe

    Apart from 2 close some would say unfair wins over Hopkins what has taylor ever done.

    He has look great in parts of fights but has never put it together for a full fight.
    One thing you can say about Taylor that you cannot say about many other fighters is Taylor never ducked anyone and always fought the best.......Joe didnt always fight the best.....Was Taylor a better fighter than Joe, maybe.....Taylor has better skills and power but he lacks great stamina.....
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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    and how is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe
    NONSENSE - you're speaking out of your rear end there pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe
    No, he doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe

    Apart from 2 close some would say unfair wins over Hopkins what has taylor ever done.

    He has look great in parts of fights but has never put it together for a full fight.
    Maybe I should of made myself a little more clearer. I was talking about fighters faced. Taylor in 32 fights has already faced better fighters than Calzaghe did in 46. Taylor's opposition of Bernard Hopkins (x2), Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Cory Spinks, Carl Froch, Kelly Pavlik (x 2) and William Joppy is clearly better than Calzaghe's of Mikkel kessler, Bernard Hopkins, Jeff Lacy, Robin Reid, Sakio Bika and Chris Eubanks

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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    If someone comes through this group undefeated then Yes.

    Likely to be Froch or Kessler.

    Jermain Taylor is done, Dirrell got a shaky jaw and Andre Ward is average.(His best win is over an empty Miranda) Abraham is abit too inconsistant for me with his punch output and I think he can be outboxed.

    Kessler will probably win the whole thing but then Joe's already beaten him.

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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    and how is that?
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    NONSENSE - you're speaking out of your rear end there pal.


    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Jermain Taylor already has a better resume than Calzaghe

    Apart from 2 close some would say unfair wins over Hopkins what has taylor ever done.

    He has look great in parts of fights but has never put it together for a full fight.
    Maybe I should of made myself a little more clearer. I was talking about fighters faced. Taylor in 32 fights has already faced better fighters than Calzaghe did in 46. Taylor's opposition of Bernard Hopkins (x2), Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Cory Spinks, Carl Froch, Kelly Pavlik (x 2) and William Joppy is clearly better than Calzaghe's of Mikkel kessler, Bernard Hopkins, Jeff Lacy, Robin Reid, Sakio Bika and Chris Eubanks
    Yea maybe the list of names you mention on Taylor's resume are more impressive than Calzaghe's list, but considering of those names he lost to Froch, and Pavlik x 2, it doesn't really stack up. Surely you have to beat the guys on your resume to make it an impressive resume. If not its probably some journeyman with the best resume, having fought a load of big names that were on their way up.
    Anyway, should Taylor go unbeaten throughout the comp, he would probably have a better resume. But definately not now.
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    Default Re: does the winner of the SMW super six have a better resume than Calzaghe??

    VD's right, everyone remembers how terrifying Ouma and Spinks were at middleweight. Those were great wins.
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