Latin Fury 12 & Israel Vazquez fight talk

[JazMerkin]

i don't see why they would, it's not like Mtagwa was robbed, he bounced back well and ALMOST had Juanma out of there but i had Lopez winning by 2 points, Juanma imo won most of the early rounds and then the second half was back and forth, both scored 10-8 rnds on my card so that cancels each other's out, it was a close fight but nowhere close to robbery

Well, nowhere did I say it was a robbery have another look, I said the WBO should give Mtagwa the belt. Lopez edged it by a point I think for me, although that's off mental scoring, but I felt Mtagwa was the guy who comes away with the credit. He gave a guy many consider P4P material (he was #15 on our last list) the fight of his life. Seeing as Lopez is jumping out of the weight-class, I think Mtagwa should get given the belt

But seriously, he should get to be in the eliminator for the vacant belt. For me, a judge scoring that 116-111 was always giving it to Lopez. It also seems Arum is going to protect Juanma from any real threat till Gamboa.

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Guarantee he fights Luevano & decisions him, Luevano hasn't got the heart or chin to do what Mtagwa did. I have a lot of respect for how Juanma held out in the last round, but he got the benefit of a lot in there (not enough for Arum though ). It was a bullshiit KD, & he was allowed to do a lot of 'resting' in there without the ref breaking it up. If Mtagwa was out on his feet, he wouldn't have got the same help. I do hope Juanma batters either Luevano or Rojas, as a Gamboa fight would be great, & he's an exciting fighter & also seems a cool guy. But, maybe we were all premature calling him a future P4P #1

alright fair enough, but yea i agree, if Juanma moves up (which he should, aside from Caballero and a Mtagwa rematch, what's left in that division?) that Mtagwa should get a shot at the vacant title

IMO Juanma did tend to fight a dumb fight for most the fight, he was hell-bent on taking Mtagwa out, and when his punches didn't phase him well he continued to try and batter him, taking a lot of punishment in the process, i think he'd do better in a rematch though, and there's no excuse why not to take one, as for the holding, both fighters used dirty tactics, Mtagwa used his head a lot (and i don't mean his brain lol) and punched after the bell on a few occasions, same as Lopez was holding too much

I was more thinking of when Lopez would try to delay the fight complaining or taking his time between the ropes, it just struck me on a number of occasions that he wanted out of there. Both guys were dirty, but I thought there were a couple of occasions the ref was in Mtagwa's way when he was punching. I actually really like Lopez, I think he didn't fight smart & he would probably be more composed.

I don't buy the 'I can't get myself up for these crappy fighters' thing he said afterwards, the best are on point regardless of the quality of the opposition & hopefully this will teach Lopez that & to be wary of any opponent. There won't be a rematch for one reason - Bob Arum is the biggest piece of shit in boxing. If Mtagwa had KO'd him, I'm convinced the old fucker would have found some way to get it overturned.