Latin Fury 12 & Israel Vazquez fight talk

[ElTerribleMorales]

Well, nowhere did I say it was a robbery have another look, I said the WBO should give Mtagwa the belt. Lopez edged it by a point I think for me, although that's off mental scoring, but I felt Mtagwa was the guy who comes away with the credit. He gave a guy many consider P4P material (he was #15 on our last list) the fight of his life. Seeing as Lopez is jumping out of the weight-class, I think Mtagwa should get given the belt

But seriously, he should get to be in the eliminator for the vacant belt. For me, a judge scoring that 116-111 was always giving it to Lopez. It also seems Arum is going to protect Juanma from any real threat till Gamboa.

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Guarantee he fights Luevano & decisions him, Luevano hasn't got the heart or chin to do what Mtagwa did. I have a lot of respect for how Juanma held out in the last round, but he got the benefit of a lot in there (not enough for Arum though ). It was a bullshiit KD, & he was allowed to do a lot of 'resting' in there without the ref breaking it up. If Mtagwa was out on his feet, he wouldn't have got the same help. I do hope Juanma batters either Luevano or Rojas, as a Gamboa fight would be great, & he's an exciting fighter & also seems a cool guy. But, maybe we were all premature calling him a future P4P #1

alright fair enough, but yea i agree, if Juanma moves up (which he should, aside from Caballero and a Mtagwa rematch, what's left in that division?) that Mtagwa should get a shot at the vacant title

IMO Juanma did tend to fight a dumb fight for most the fight, he was hell-bent on taking Mtagwa out, and when his punches didn't phase him well he continued to try and batter him, taking a lot of punishment in the process, i think he'd do better in a rematch though, and there's no excuse why not to take one, as for the holding, both fighters used dirty tactics, Mtagwa used his head a lot (and i don't mean his brain lol) and punched after the bell on a few occasions, same as Lopez was holding too much

I was more thinking of when Lopez would try to delay the fight complaining or taking his time between the ropes, it just struck me on a number of occasions that he wanted out of there. Both guys were dirty, but I thought there were a couple of occasions the ref was in Mtagwa's way when he was punching. I actually really like Lopez, I think he didn't fight smart & he would probably be more composed.

I don't buy the 'I can't get myself up for these crappy fighters' thing he said afterwards, the best are on point regardless of the quality of the opposition & hopefully this will teach Lopez that & to be wary of any opponent. There won't be a rematch for one reason - Bob Arum is the biggest piece of shit in boxing. If Mtagwa had KO'd him, I'm convinced the old fucker would have found some way to get it overturned.

lmao no doubt that the bastard would pull some bullshit like that, i believe that Lopez could have outboxed Mtagwa if he would have kept himself composed but he was way too wild, and i also don't believe the whole not gettin up for guys like Mtagwa, and even if it's true, well what happened last night happens when you take a guy too lightly, but yea at least it was a good fight, first real challenger to Diaz/Marquez for FOTY this year