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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    .....I hope Cotto just blasts Pac out in 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I don't know why you guys take stuff like this so seriously, its just head games with Cotto and trying to get a referee to pay attention to something, no different than if a trainer talked about holding before a fight with Hatton or using the elbow before a fight with Floyd, no different than a college basketball coach complaining about one call in order to try to get the next. There's nothing new here.
    Roach is just playing some mind games. I'm watching again the fights of Cotto and it seems that he's prone to giving low blows. Any trainer should be concerned about it especially if it's a big fight like this.

    I appreciate Roach's approach of considering everything. That's what a good coach should do to their fighters.

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    Roach is using a Phil Jackson tactic, the great Lakers coach does it all the time in the NBA. Brilliant move.

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    Roach should shut his cakehole...the ginger minger!

    Cotto should belt Manny in the balls right away! That'll teach 'em. Cotto is going to knock him out so he can deal with a point deduction.

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    Lol on the Phil Jackson comment. So true

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Roach should shut his cakehole...the ginger minger!

    Cotto should belt Manny in the balls right away! That'll teach 'em. Cotto is going to knock him out so he can deal with a point deduction.


    What Roach wants is not point deduction but disqualification. I hope it gets approve so Cotto won't have a chance to knock out Pacquaio.

    The more I watch Cotto's fights, the more I see Pacquaio being TKOed.

    Bad for my boy so they better approve Roach's request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Roach is using a Phil Jackson tactic, the great Lakers coach does it all the time in the NBA. Brilliant move.
    What? He tells basketball players to not whack each others nuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Roach should shut his cakehole...the ginger minger!

    Cotto should belt Manny in the balls right away! That'll teach 'em. Cotto is going to knock him out so he can deal with a point deduction.

    lol

    ive actually got a lot of time for roach....but best trainer in the world my arse

    He uncovered the greatest small fighter of the 21st century. He still f*cked up tyson
    one dangerous horrible bloke

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    I think its a good move by freddie. Understanding that his underweight, undersized fighter is fighting a welterweight close enough to the limit... Freddie understands that his fighter is giving up size and power, so he's banking on speed and movement and combinations to pick apart Cotto.

    Unfortunately a shot to the cups, not a floyd forearm or or a hatton clinch or a ruiz jab n' grab... or even a non cutting headbutt. Its not something that can be reaffirmed to the ref after the round is over. Roach knows Cottos M.O. and he knows that if Cotto goes to the cup on his fighter, his whole game plan goes out the window.

    A shot to the cup especially by a physically bigger power puncher will freeze his fighter and expose him to heavy shots when he cant protect himself. Even low blows that are not on the cup take away his fighters legs and mobility and leave pacquaio a sitting duck for cottos body attack. Its a classic tactic used by big punchers and knuckle draggers with heavy feet, that couldnt deal with movement. Take away the guys legs and hes forced to stand and trade with you where you have the advantage. He wont get an immediate suspension, but hes going for the strictest penalty hope to make everyone aware. The ref will know when and where to look for it and Cottos more likely to keep his punches high. Its a bit of genius against someone who relies on the body attack as much as Cotto because even legal punches that are close to the border can get Cotto a warning and take away his primary weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Roach should shut his cakehole...the ginger minger!

    Cotto should belt Manny in the balls right away! That'll teach 'em. Cotto is going to knock him out so he can deal with a point deduction.

    lol

    ive actually got a lot of time for roach....but best trainer in the world my arse

    He uncovered the greatest small fighter of the 21st century. He still f*cked up tyson
    Tyson was F***ed by then anyway.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Roach should shut his cakehole...the ginger minger!

    Cotto should belt Manny in the balls right away! That'll teach 'em. Cotto is going to knock him out so he can deal with a point deduction.

    lol

    ive actually got a lot of time for roach....but best trainer in the world my arse

    He uncovered the greatest small fighter of the 21st century. He still f*cked up tyson
    You're the only person in the world who think Freddy Roach is what was wrong with Tyson....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Hype and putting pressure on the ref, that is all it is.
    shouldn't be tolerated. PBF vs Hatton...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    .....I hope Cotto just blasts Pac out in 1
    Me and you could get along. I hope just that. And then if we can all get back to some real business and stick the catchwieght s**t through the shredder.

    Cotto vs Mayweather in Madison Square Garden. Fingers crossed.

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    I think Roach is concerned about the job Cotto will do to Manny's body than actual low blows. The fact of the matter is that those committed to a body attack often stray low and for Cotto, those rare instances have been UNINTENTIONAL. By Roach calling attention to it, he will make the referee focus on it more than he should, thereby possibly causing warnings, which may cause Cotto to be more tentative to the body, or a point deduction. Roach seems to figure that there's no way Manny is going to KO Cotto, so every point they can get for a decision is important. A fight that goes the distance is bad for Cotto because Manny will often flurry and the fight will be fought at such a fast pace that it will be difficult for the judges to see a clear cut winner. Manny and his people are hoping to survive because ANY win, whether legitimate or controversial will guarantee a big payday against Mayweather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    .....I hope Cotto just blasts Pac out in 1
    Me and you could get along. I hope just that. And then if we can all get back to some real business and stick the catchwieght s**t through the shredder.

    Cotto vs Mayweather in Madison Square Garden. Fingers crossed.
    No way will they fight in MSG, for the same reason Pac & Hatton didn't fight in Wembley. The money the casinos put up is just too valuable. That's why the big fights will continue to be there. The MGM Grand could give away all the tickets as comps & probably still make a tidy profit from what people spend in the casinos & shops throughout the day.

    Anyway, according to this whoever wins it appears Arum simply doesn't want to do the deal with Mayweather. In fact, he doesn't even want to bother trying to negotiate.

    Pacquiao-Mayweather Unlikely For 2010, Says Arum - Boxing News

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