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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    .....I hope Cotto just blasts Pac out in 1
    Me and you could get along. I hope just that. And then if we can all get back to some real business and stick the catchwieght s**t through the shredder.

    Cotto vs Mayweather in Madison Square Garden. Fingers crossed.
    No way will they fight in MSG, for the same reason Pac & Hatton didn't fight in Wembley. The money the casinos put up is just too valuable. That's why the big fights will continue to be there. The MGM Grand could give away all the tickets as comps & probably still make a tidy profit from what people spend in the casinos & shops throughout the day.

    Anyway, according to this whoever wins it appears Arum simply doesn't want to do the deal with Mayweather. In fact, he doesn't even want to bother trying to negotiate.

    Pacquiao-Mayweather Unlikely For 2010, Says Arum - Boxing News

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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    .....I hope Cotto just blasts Pac out in 1
    Me and you could get along. I hope just that. And then if we can all get back to some real business and stick the catchwieght s**t through the shredder.

    Cotto vs Mayweather in Madison Square Garden. Fingers crossed.
    No way will they fight in MSG, for the same reason Pac & Hatton didn't fight in Wembley. The money the casinos put up is just too valuable. That's why the big fights will continue to be there. The MGM Grand could give away all the tickets as comps & probably still make a tidy profit from what people spend in the casinos & shops throughout the day.

    Anyway, according to this whoever wins it appears Arum simply doesn't want to do the deal with Mayweather. In fact, he doesn't even want to bother trying to negotiate.

    Pacquiao-Mayweather Unlikely For 2010, Says Arum - Boxing News
    Because Mayweather will be difficult to negotiate with his trash talks.

    They want Mayweather but Mayweather seems to be avoiding Pac. Before Mayweather fought MArquez, team Pacquaio including Arum was asking Mayweather to wait for just one day so Mayweather vs Pac could happen. MAyweather instead declared his fight vs Marquez on the same day Pac vs Hatton was weighed in for their fight (hope my memory does not fail me on this).

    This is the reason why Arum is doubting Pac vs Mayweather would happen.

    In case Pac demolishes Cotto impressively, Mayweather won't be fighting Pac for sure.... and we know why...

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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post

    Me and you could get along. I hope just that. And then if we can all get back to some real business and stick the catchwieght s**t through the shredder.

    Cotto vs Mayweather in Madison Square Garden. Fingers crossed.
    No way will they fight in MSG, for the same reason Pac & Hatton didn't fight in Wembley. The money the casinos put up is just too valuable. That's why the big fights will continue to be there. The MGM Grand could give away all the tickets as comps & probably still make a tidy profit from what people spend in the casinos & shops throughout the day.

    Anyway, according to this whoever wins it appears Arum simply doesn't want to do the deal with Mayweather. In fact, he doesn't even want to bother trying to negotiate.

    Pacquiao-Mayweather Unlikely For 2010, Says Arum - Boxing News
    Because Mayweather will be difficult to negotiate with his trash talks.

    They want Mayweather but Mayweather seems to be avoiding Pac. Before Mayweather fought MArquez, team Pacquaio including Arum was asking Mayweather to wait for just one day so Mayweather vs Pac could happen. MAyweather instead declared his fight vs Marquez on the same day Pac vs Hatton was weighed in for their fight (hope my memory does not fail me on this).

    This is the reason why Arum is doubting Pac vs Mayweather would happen.

    In case Pac demolishes Cotto impressively, Mayweather won't be fighting Pac for sure.... and we know why...
    Because he is bigger, faster, a better counter puncher has better defense, hits harder and has better timing then Marquez?
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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    No way will they fight in MSG, for the same reason Pac & Hatton didn't fight in Wembley. The money the casinos put up is just too valuable. That's why the big fights will continue to be there. The MGM Grand could give away all the tickets as comps & probably still make a tidy profit from what people spend in the casinos & shops throughout the day.

    Anyway, according to this whoever wins it appears Arum simply doesn't want to do the deal with Mayweather. In fact, he doesn't even want to bother trying to negotiate.

    Pacquiao-Mayweather Unlikely For 2010, Says Arum - Boxing News
    Because Mayweather will be difficult to negotiate with his trash talks.

    They want Mayweather but Mayweather seems to be avoiding Pac. Before Mayweather fought MArquez, team Pacquaio including Arum was asking Mayweather to wait for just one day so Mayweather vs Pac could happen. MAyweather instead declared his fight vs Marquez on the same day Pac vs Hatton was weighed in for their fight (hope my memory does not fail me on this).

    This is the reason why Arum is doubting Pac vs Mayweather would happen.

    In case Pac demolishes Cotto impressively, Mayweather won't be fighting Pac for sure.... and we know why...
    Because he is bigger, faster, a better counter puncher has better defense, hits harder and has better timing then Marquez?
    and currently, he only wants to fight small guys like Marquez who won't be able to knock him out.

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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post

    Because Mayweather will be difficult to negotiate with his trash talks.

    They want Mayweather but Mayweather seems to be avoiding Pac. Before Mayweather fought MArquez, team Pacquaio including Arum was asking Mayweather to wait for just one day so Mayweather vs Pac could happen. MAyweather instead declared his fight vs Marquez on the same day Pac vs Hatton was weighed in for their fight (hope my memory does not fail me on this).

    This is the reason why Arum is doubting Pac vs Mayweather would happen.

    In case Pac demolishes Cotto impressively, Mayweather won't be fighting Pac for sure.... and we know why...
    Because he is bigger, faster, a better counter puncher has better defense, hits harder and has better timing then Marquez?
    and currently, he only wants to fight small guys like Marquez who won't be able to knock him out.
    The small guy was good enough to beat Pacquiao twice
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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Because he is bigger, faster, a better counter puncher has better defense, hits harder and has better timing then Marquez?
    and currently, he only wants to fight small guys like Marquez who won't be able to knock him out.
    The small guy was good enough to beat Pacquiao twice
    Not in my book. Pacquaio knocks JMM many times and that was enough to convince the judges that he won. Styles make fights and power changes the stories of fights.

    Besides, if Pacquiao fights now the JMM that fought MAyweather ( at the same weight), I'll be bold in my prediction that JMM will not survive the 12 rounds.

    And if you are honest to yourself, you will agree with me.

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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post

    and currently, he only wants to fight small guys like Marquez who won't be able to knock him out.
    The small guy was good enough to beat Pacquiao twice
    Not in my book. Pacquaio knocks JMM many times and that was enough to convince the judges that he won. Styles make fights and power changes the stories of fights.

    Besides, if Pacquiao fights now the JMM that fought MAyweather ( at the same weight), I'll be bold in my prediction that JMM will not survive the 12 rounds.

    And if you are honest to yourself, you will agree with me.
    Marquez beats any version of Pacquiao. He was just in there with Floyd Mayweather, if you think Pacquiao has the skill to out time, and outbox Marquez then you're willing to think he won't survive 12 rounds.

    Fact is Marquez beat the "inexperienced" Pacquiao and the "new and improved with a right hook" Pacquiao too. There's a reason Pacquiao wanted none of a third fight with Marquez.
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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post

    Because Mayweather will be difficult to negotiate with his trash talks.

    They want Mayweather but Mayweather seems to be avoiding Pac. Before Mayweather fought MArquez, team Pacquaio including Arum was asking Mayweather to wait for just one day so Mayweather vs Pac could happen. MAyweather instead declared his fight vs Marquez on the same day Pac vs Hatton was weighed in for their fight (hope my memory does not fail me on this).

    This is the reason why Arum is doubting Pac vs Mayweather would happen.

    In case Pac demolishes Cotto impressively, Mayweather won't be fighting Pac for sure.... and we know why...
    Because he is bigger, faster, a better counter puncher has better defense, hits harder and has better timing then Marquez?
    and currently, he only wants to fight small guys like Marquez who won't be able to knock him out.
    You've named one guy who was smaller than Mayweather when they fought.

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    Default Re: Roach wants some more

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    No way will they fight in MSG, for the same reason Pac & Hatton didn't fight in Wembley. The money the casinos put up is just too valuable. That's why the big fights will continue to be there. The MGM Grand could give away all the tickets as comps & probably still make a tidy profit from what people spend in the casinos & shops throughout the day.

    Anyway, according to this whoever wins it appears Arum simply doesn't want to do the deal with Mayweather. In fact, he doesn't even want to bother trying to negotiate.

    Pacquiao-Mayweather Unlikely For 2010, Says Arum - Boxing News
    Because Mayweather will be difficult to negotiate with his trash talks.

    They want Mayweather but Mayweather seems to be avoiding Pac. Before Mayweather fought MArquez, team Pacquaio including Arum was asking Mayweather to wait for just one day so Mayweather vs Pac could happen. MAyweather instead declared his fight vs Marquez on the same day Pac vs Hatton was weighed in for their fight (hope my memory does not fail me on this).

    This is the reason why Arum is doubting Pac vs Mayweather would happen.

    In case Pac demolishes Cotto impressively, Mayweather won't be fighting Pac for sure.... and we know why...
    He didn't avoid Pac, he took a fight with Marquez first. Do you think all the negotiations that went into the JMM fight all happened on that one day?

    Arum doubts it because he wants PBF to earn as little as possible. He also wants to protect his investments. The fact he's talking about putting Pac in with JMM, who PBF just decisively beat, says it all about who is ducking who (no not Pac, Arum). The fact you'd try to defend a piece of shiit promoter like Arum, just because you can't bare anything that doesn't cover Manny in complete, undying adulation is pathetic.

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