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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather v Saul Alvarez in Mexico ???

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    Whats your rundown of everyone that Mosley's faced? Here's the people I can think of from the top of my head that are great opposition. De La Hoya, Forrest(lost twice), Wright(lost twice), Vargas, Cotto(lost) and Margarito. In your opinion should we give all that credit to a resume if you faced them and lost or is it just the matter of fighting them that they should get all that credit for? Of those 6 top guys Mosley has fought he lost to three of them. that makes him 3-3.

    If i ran down Mayweathers list, he beat G. Hernandez(we can rank him at about Vargas level if you like) Carlos Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Castillo, Judah and Baldomir are getting a mention because you cannot blame them for their standings in the division at the time Floyd fought them, De La Hoya, Hatton and Marquez. Floyd has beaten them all and still has time. Considering his next 2 opponents are likely to be Pacquiao and Mosley. Mayweather within his next 2 or 3 fights would have a resume that beats Shane's especially if Floyd wins all those fights. Agree or disagree?
    I agree with some of that to a point, but you left Jesus Chavez off Floyd's list & John John Molina, Phillip Holiday & Jesse James Leija off Shane's. I'd say right now Shane has the slight edge in terms of quality of opposition, but obviously success rate plays into that for a lot of people. If Floyd fought Pac/Cotto & won, I'd say his was marginally better. If he then beat the winner of Shane/Berto, it would be quite a bit better.
    Hmm well I'd think if we put John John Molina, Phillip Holiday and Jesse James Leija on Shanes that we can put Gatti's name on Floyds along with Jesus Chavez whom you mentioned as well. Don't know if we'd put Corley on Floyds list, he was a champ but I don't know if we can really consider him that top.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather v Saul Alvarez in Mexico ???

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    Whats your rundown of everyone that Mosley's faced? Here's the people I can think of from the top of my head that are great opposition. De La Hoya, Forrest(lost twice), Wright(lost twice), Vargas, Cotto(lost) and Margarito. In your opinion should we give all that credit to a resume if you faced them and lost or is it just the matter of fighting them that they should get all that credit for? Of those 6 top guys Mosley has fought he lost to three of them. that makes him 3-3.

    If i ran down Mayweathers list, he beat G. Hernandez(we can rank him at about Vargas level if you like) Carlos Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Castillo, Judah and Baldomir are getting a mention because you cannot blame them for their standings in the division at the time Floyd fought them, De La Hoya, Hatton and Marquez. Floyd has beaten them all and still has time. Considering his next 2 opponents are likely to be Pacquiao and Mosley. Mayweather within his next 2 or 3 fights would have a resume that beats Shane's especially if Floyd wins all those fights. Agree or disagree?
    I agree with some of that to a point, but you left Jesus Chavez off Floyd's list & John John Molina, Phillip Holiday & Jesse James Leija off Shane's. I'd say right now Shane has the slight edge in terms of quality of opposition, but obviously success rate plays into that for a lot of people. If Floyd fought Pac/Cotto & won, I'd say his was marginally better. If he then beat the winner of Shane/Berto, it would be quite a bit better.
    Hmm well I'd think if we put John John Molina, Phillip Holiday and Jesse James Leija on Shanes that we can put Gatti's name on Floyds along with Jesus Chavez whom you mentioned as well. Don't know if we'd put Corley on Floyds list, he was a champ but I don't know if we can really consider him that top.
    Corley was nowhere near the level of Leija, Holiday & Molina, who were all extremely accomplished fighters with Hall of Famers on some of their resumes. I guess Gatti & Chavez can go on there, but the Gatti that Floyd fought was not on the same level as Holiday or Leija that Shane fought IMO.
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