Meet the new WBA Heavyweight Champion of the world

[El Kabong]

I cant make my mind up about david haye...

He`s cocky...but he isnt american cocky, just very sure of himself

Either way every single fight fan who has any passion for this sport should be preying haye knocks the freak spark out and sends him into retirement!

#1 What do you mean by "American cocky"?

#2 What makes you think Haye is any better for the sport than Valuev, neither of them want to fight the best fighters in the division.

[HattonTheHammer]

I cant make my mind up about david haye...

He`s cocky...but he isnt american cocky, just very sure of himself

Either way every single fight fan who has any passion for this sport should be preying haye knocks the freak spark out and sends him into retirement!

#1 What do you mean by "American cocky"?

#2 What makes you think Haye is any better for the sport than Valuev, neither of them want to fight the best fighters in the division.

(1) - he doesnt jump around doing silly dances, singing silly songs and doing his upmost to intimidate his opponent ala:Mayweather, Ali x million

(2) - David isnt an out of shape russian monster who is incapable of knocking an opponent out and would much rather spend 12rounds pouring a jab over his much smaller opponent rather than just going toe to toe with him and knocking him the f*ck out!

[El Kabong]

1. He doesn't? He might not sing but he certainly goes all out trying (and I stress TRYING) to intimidate/humiliate his opponents

2. David might not seem like he'll stand there and eat the jab all day long but his style is going to make it very difficult for him to get around it. He was able to do what he did vs Monte Barrett because Monte Barrett is not a good fighter. Haye can be in the best shape ever but his style will not translate well into the heavyweight division.

[rjj tszyu]

1. He doesn't? He might not sing but he certainly goes all out trying (and I stress TRYING) to intimidate/humiliate his opponents

2. David might not seem like he'll stand there and eat the jab all day long but his style is going to make it very difficult for him to get around it. He was able to do what he did vs Monte Barrett because Monte Barrett is not a good fighter. Haye can be in the best shape ever but his style will not translate well into the heavyweight division.

Out of interest Lyle, how many Haye fights have you actually seen?

[El Kabong]

I've seen enough of him to know that he fancies himself to be a bigger Roy Jones Jr. and he doesn't have the speed or reflexes to pull it off.

These are the Haye fights I have seen: Barrett, Bonin, Fragomeni, Mormeck, Thompson, Maccarinelli, and Gurov.

Haye is more in control when he is backing up and trying to counter, when he attacks and goes forward he's wild and off balance. Haye is also more open on defense when he's backing up.

That's just what I see, maybe I'm not seeing what you want me to see but I see Haye throwing big punches 1 or 2 at a time, putting all his weight behind them and that tires you out, I know because when I boxed it tuckered me out pretty quick. With the defense Haye has he won't be long for the boxing world if he doesn't keep his left up, because the guys at heavyweight have longer arms, they are taller, and they have more power than the cruiserweights Haye has fought. If Haye wants to do well in the heavyweight division he'll fight more like Holyfield and catch/roll with punches and counter rather than laying back and waiting for his opponent to overshoot or come up short with punches.

[HattonTheHammer]

1. He doesn't? He might not sing but he certainly goes all out trying (and I stress TRYING) to intimidate/humiliate his opponents

2. David might not seem like he'll stand there and eat the jab all day long but his style is going to make it very difficult for him to get around it. He was able to do what he did vs Monte Barrett because Monte Barrett is not a good fighter. Haye can be in the best shape ever but his style will not translate well into the heavyweight division.

the jurys out, ive no idea how he`ll manage at heavy because of the fact he has in his entire career never been in with genuine class

I`ll make my mind up once he finally has the balls to fight a klitschko and not run rings around a guy who couldnt do a somersault if his life depended on it!