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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I do see at the start Dirrell maybe having joy with his speed, but lets be realistic here he cant do it for 12 rounds, especially when Carl Froch ups his game after the half way point. I just dont see how some people think it can be one sided in Dirrells favour, its beyond me. Taylors better than Dirrell IMO
    I can answer that for you..

    Froch is a strong OX with a ton of will and heart to go along with devastating power... Thats all he has Tam, he is nothing special ,Froch is shit fundamentally as far as offense and defense goes, he plods around and is graceful as an elephant. Not saying he isint entertaining and he wont gut out some good wins in his career Pascal/Taylor but history dosent reflect well in these matchups when a banger fights a slickster.

    Froch is going to give away early rounds and will take punishment in the process, he might get broken down and stopped before Dirrell ever slows
    Taylor was suppose to be too fast for Froch and look what happened, as soon as Carl knows whats coming his way he will be fine. Im a lot more concerned with what Taylor brought to the table that Dirrell IMO, and with the experience Carl has gained from those two big wins. I think he will stop him late

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I do see at the start Dirrell maybe having joy with his speed, but lets be realistic here he cant do it for 12 rounds, especially when Carl Froch ups his game after the half way point. I just dont see how some people think it can be one sided in Dirrells favour, its beyond me. Taylors better than Dirrell IMO
    I can answer that for you..

    Froch is a strong OX with a ton of will and heart to go along with devastating power... Thats all he has Tam, he is nothing special ,Froch is shit fundamentally as far as offense and defense goes, he plods around and is graceful as an elephant. Not saying he isint entertaining and he wont gut out some good wins in his career Pascal/Taylor but history dosent reflect well in these matchups when a banger fights a slickster.

    Froch is going to give away early rounds and will take punishment in the process, he might get broken down and stopped before Dirrell ever slows
    Taylor was suppose to be too fast for Froch and look what happened, as soon as Carl knows whats coming his way he will be fine. Im a lot more concerned with what Taylor brought to the table that Dirrell IMO, and with the experience Carl has gained from those two big wins. I think he will stop him late

    Agree his defense is poor at best but he actually does have quite good footwork for a guy that is hardly a speed merchant

    Froch/Calzaghe/Kessler - none of those are graced with a certain attribute that makes a great fighter. But they all know how to get the job done and mess up an opponents gameplan. Froch will take dirrell to the trenches eventually and dirrell will tire something rotten!!
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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I know your going to perform like you always do and show the boxing world why your the doghorse once again of the 168 weight class. I know this is your time to shine and your going to knock Dirrell out, ive been following you for this long now and I know that your well above Dirrell in everything. Good Luck Frochy I know your not going to dissapoint, lets have him son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    COME ON CARL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

    here, here

    the beers are in, the ppv is ordered cannot wait

    Frochy to take out dirrell in the 11th and taylor to completely dominate abraham for 12 rounds to in inevitably losing on the scorecards!!
    I'm actually puuting money on a Froch KO and a Taylor decision tonight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I know your going to perform like you always do and show the boxing world why your the doghorse once again of the 168 weight class. I know this is your time to shine and your going to knock Dirrell out, ive been following you for this long now and I know that your well above Dirrell in everything. Good Luck Frochy I know your not going to dissapoint, lets have him son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    COME ON CARL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

    here, here

    the beers are in, the ppv is ordered cannot wait

    Frochy to take out dirrell in the 11th and taylor to completely dominate abraham for 12 rounds to in inevitably losing on the scorecards!!
    I'm actually puuting money on a Froch KO and a Taylor decision tonight!

    taylor decision..............youve got to be a very brave man mate!

    AA could spend an entire round checking out the totty in the front row and he`d still get a 10-9 round!!
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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    Calzaghe/Kessler - none of those are graced with a certain attribute that makes a great fighter.
    Your quite wrong there..

    Calzaghe had great speed, volume and fitness that lasted forever coupled with heart and desire. He was very smart with excellent footwork and superb chin.

    Kessler is as fundamentally sound a fighter their is, the guy is perfect textbook down to the tee, with decent power and great chin.

    Froch isint fit to carry either of their jock straps

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    here, here

    the beers are in, the ppv is ordered cannot wait

    Frochy to take out dirrell in the 11th and taylor to completely dominate abraham for 12 rounds to in inevitably losing on the scorecards!!
    I'm actually puuting money on a Froch KO and a Taylor decision tonight!

    taylor decision..............youve got to be a very brave man mate!

    AA could spend an entire round checking out the totty in the front row and he`d still get a 10-9 round!!
    There is that but I think the scoring should be ok because of the build up this has had, they know the whole world is watching!

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    Calzaghe/Kessler - none of those are graced with a certain attribute that makes a great fighter.
    Your quite wrong there..

    Calzaghe had great speed, volume and fitness that lasted forever coupled with heart and desire. He was very smart with excellent footwork and superb chin.

    Kessler is as fundamentally sound a fighter their is, the guy is perfect textbook down to the tee, with decent power and great chin.

    Froch isint fit to carry either of their jock straps

    where people get this calzaghe..superior speed thing from i just do not know

    The reason he threw so many punches in a round is due to the fact very very few of those were power punches more just JC randomly throwing shots in order to win a round.

    kessler is exactly what ive just said. A great technician who doesnt do anything particularly great or poor. He is your finished article and an extremely intelligent fighter that can throw you a trump card when he feels free to.

    Froch isnt Joe Calzaghe or Mikkel Kessler im not claiming that. But he does use every last ounce of his abilitys like those two.
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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post

    Calzaghe/Kessler - none of those are graced with a certain attribute that makes a great fighter.
    Your quite wrong there..

    Calzaghe had great speed, volume and fitness that lasted forever coupled with heart and desire. He was very smart with excellent footwork and superb chin.

    Kessler is as fundamentally sound a fighter their is, the guy is perfect textbook down to the tee, with decent power and great chin.

    Froch isint fit to carry either of their jock straps

    where people get this calzaghe..superior speed thing from i just do not know

    The reason he threw so many punches in a round is due to the fact very very few of those were power punches more just JC randomly throwing shots in order to win a round.

    kessler is exactly what ive just said. A great technician who doesnt do anything particularly great or poor. He is your finished article and an extremely intelligent fighter that can throw you a trump card when he feels free to.

    Froch isnt Joe Calzaghe or Mikkel Kessler im not claiming that. But he does use every last ounce of his abilitys like those two.
    Thats a bit contradictory I think, to state a blatant claim and say they dont have great attributes.. Kessler being the polished article in everyway is one hell of a great attribute..

    I started a new thread about it, not to pick on you but the forum is slow and I though it was a thought provoking statement and wanted to see what others thought... Please add to this above to the discussion

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just found this clip, it's early in his career, so I would hope that he will have correct the flaw since then:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEM2hVz3wfo

    He gets floored by a counter, right hand... exactly the type that Froch likes to land... like I say it's something I'd hope they would have worked on since, especially for Froch but what's more interesting is that whilst solid, it's hardly concussive so I have to question Dirrell's chin.

    Not exactly conclusive, it's about 3 years old but it's quite interesting.

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    Your quite wrong there..

    Calzaghe had great speed, volume and fitness that lasted forever coupled with heart and desire. He was very smart with excellent footwork and superb chin.

    Kessler is as fundamentally sound a fighter their is, the guy is perfect textbook down to the tee, with decent power and great chin.

    Froch isint fit to carry either of their jock straps

    where people get this calzaghe..superior speed thing from i just do not know

    The reason he threw so many punches in a round is due to the fact very very few of those were power punches more just JC randomly throwing shots in order to win a round.

    kessler is exactly what ive just said. A great technician who doesnt do anything particularly great or poor. He is your finished article and an extremely intelligent fighter that can throw you a trump card when he feels free to.

    Froch isnt Joe Calzaghe or Mikkel Kessler im not claiming that. But he does use every last ounce of his abilitys like those two.
    Thats a bit contradictory I think, to state a blatant claim and say they dont have great attributes.. Kessler being the polished article in everyway is one hell of a great attribute..

    I started a new thread about it, not to pick on you but the forum is slow and I though it was a thought provoking statement and wanted to see what others thought... Please add to this above to the discussion

    No it isnt

    thats like saying coldplays mellow tunes were an attribute or that a bigmacs all round taste was an attribute

    if i said kessler had amazing power that indeed would be contradictory. I didnt, you need to think inside the box!
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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    These 2 fights are all
    Will vs. Skill
    Im expecting Abraham to TKO Taylor late in the fight.
    also to see Froch win on the scorecards due to havin dropped Dirrell a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Hope he knocks him out in brutal fashion, he is a typical loud mouth in your face up his own arse cocky cunt from America.

    Fuck him up Froch!
    To be fair, you could replace or omit the word America and you'd have a pretty accurate description of Froch.

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Anyone know what time the fights start here in North America?

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Hope he knocks him out in brutal fashion, he is a typical loud mouth in your face up his own arse cocky cunt from America.

    Fuck him up Froch!
    To be fair, you could replace or omit the word America and you'd have a pretty accurate description of Froch.
    I'd agree with you if Froch acted like a retard with his head flopping about everywhere and screaming shit out

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    Default Re: Good luck tonight Carl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dirrell will look good early on, but I fully expect Froch to beat him down later in the fight.

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