Training device

[atgatt]

Chris, thanks for the feed back and I appreciate this forum letting post what I have so it could be made better.

Real quick, I can not add gloves as it is now because of the weight it adds. I may be able to do a fake glove sometime that is filled with a light foam but that will disfigure in shape in no time at all. At least with the size fist it has now, if you can stop it slipping into you, you sure can stop a glove.

About the compressor and bag in front, that is just a traveling version I made to possibly show at some gyms. In reality, you can just attach the arms or arm to a wall, put them at any height, width or angle and have nothing else in your way.

About getting closer, I have data what your reaction time must be at the end of the 18 inch punch from slow to fast speed. When a person is let's say at 9 inches from the fist, your reaction time is about half because I had tested with radar the speeds at half way and they are just as fast as all the way. What I'm saying is, you have to be VERY fast at 18 inches let alone at 9.

[Chris Nagel]

Yeah that can punch really fast. Do you simply adjust the air pressure to change the speed?

[atgatt]

Yes, simply change to pressure to change the speed. Once done, the speed is very consistent. So let's say you got it down to slip a 7 mph punch, if you turn it up about 10 psi it will be a bit faster so then you work at that speed and so on.

The amount of punches and the sequence can be changed by the program setting. It could have numerous program settings. I'm only showing one.

An error people make is they say that they and others can punch much faster than 13 mph. So can I. My jab is 10 mph without cocking it first. My right cross is 17 mph and if I measure my long hook, it would be even faster. That only matters for power of the punch, not reaction times because those punches start from way back, and for a punch to start way back means some punch was thrown already to set up the long punch or the person moved a guard hand back to throw a punch from farther back. All of that takes time. So in reality, the true test of reaction time is WHERE the punch originated from the guard position and the distance it traveled. So a 13 mph jab (which may not be humanly possible) traveling 18 inches gives a reaction time of just 800 ms. If a person can stop that punch, they should be able to stop any of the others. I just don't think anyone is that fast but maybe some day a pro boxer will let me see if they can on the RBT. I'd bet they can't. Anyway, you get the picture.

[Scrap]

Like the idea, but how was it tested, to do what it says it does. It doesnt add up.

[atgatt]

How was it tested? By radar. What part does not add up? The lower hit force is from the 10 oz arm rather than a 9 to 12 lb human arm going at the same speed.

Again, everything it says it does is true, but it's NOT a sparring partner. Still, it's a workout and it sure teaches keep your guard up.

[ryanman]

I think its great John. I've checked out your website and the videos on youtube. Kudos to you for devising and putting it together. I think it could be a really useful tool, for people that just want to have fun and get fit at home, or people new to boxing.

[atgatt]

ryanman, thanks for seeing it for what it is. It does teach that jabs come in very fast and you're much better off having your guard up already rather than making it come up after the punch started at you because that is usually too late, at least it is for me.

Also, in the vids I was cheating and I don't do that anymore. I had my hands in front of me just trying to show blocking the RBT arms but in reality I keep them farther to me and slightly to the sides to guard from a hook.

I can't slip the RBT even at 7 mph. I just can't move back or to the side that fast. All I can do is block it with my hands. It always sneaks punches through but it is a lot less than when I started.

Like you said, it is FUN and I may see how it may market in the exercise customer base. I love to hit the speed bags, double end bags and heavy bag, but my shoulders get the most tired boxing against the RBT. Part of the reason is punching from a distance and keeping my guard up all the time. MUCH different workout than just hitting.