Training device

[Scrap]

Like the idea, but how was it tested, to do what it says it does. It doesnt add up.

[atgatt]

How was it tested? By radar. What part does not add up? The lower hit force is from the 10 oz arm rather than a 9 to 12 lb human arm going at the same speed.

Again, everything it says it does is true, but it's NOT a sparring partner. Still, it's a workout and it sure teaches keep your guard up.

[ryanman]

I think its great John. I've checked out your website and the videos on youtube. Kudos to you for devising and putting it together. I think it could be a really useful tool, for people that just want to have fun and get fit at home, or people new to boxing.

[atgatt]

ryanman, thanks for seeing it for what it is. It does teach that jabs come in very fast and you're much better off having your guard up already rather than making it come up after the punch started at you because that is usually too late, at least it is for me.

Also, in the vids I was cheating and I don't do that anymore. I had my hands in front of me just trying to show blocking the RBT arms but in reality I keep them farther to me and slightly to the sides to guard from a hook.

I can't slip the RBT even at 7 mph. I just can't move back or to the side that fast. All I can do is block it with my hands. It always sneaks punches through but it is a lot less than when I started.

Like you said, it is FUN and I may see how it may market in the exercise customer base. I love to hit the speed bags, double end bags and heavy bag, but my shoulders get the most tired boxing against the RBT. Part of the reason is punching from a distance and keeping my guard up all the time. MUCH different workout than just hitting.

[Scrap]

Not criticiseing matey just asking what tests have been done. THe thing being its not reaction as such that makes the blocking or slipping of a punch effective, its the movement or action before the shot byou react to. Its the permatation of lots of things. The eye sense or message doesnt go direct to the brain its the only sense that doesnt. I would think it could give bad habits, like waiting for the action rather than avoidance. Just curious , wish you well with it.

[atgatt]

Scrap, agreed, it could give bad habits. It has to be taken within the realm of what it is doing. One has to realize that it is only throwing straight punches and it is not moving. That said, I could pick up a lot worse habits just hitting a heavy bag or double end bag that is not even punching back. I always say, anyone can look good hitting something that does not strike back, even an old man like me.

About waiting for action rather than avoidance, I have learned to NOT wait, guard to avoid, get in and out QUICK because action beats reaction. Still, the other person acts too and no matter what, a person has to react sometime. In the vids I was showing blocking.

What it has taught me, I am not personally fast enough to slip punches, so when I come in to punch, I try to do it fast and keep a guard that exposes the least amount when going in to punch. Now I know I could block faster with my arms and hands much faster than I could slip.

I was surprised too when I read research that a sound registers faster with the brain than sight. An unfair advantage the RBT has is that it has no elbow, torso, feet, etc, that all move in a human punch, giving more to see along with the moving punch. The RBT arms just pop out...BAAAAAM!

[Andre]

It think it could be great to build contact reflexes if you could have your forearm arm touching it and go off the contact reaction more than the visual one.

[Scrap]

Just seen the Vidio , interesting. Thats not a Bad idea, I apologise, lots of things and permentations could come of it. How hard is the impact.