Best replacement for JT in the Super Six

[jdonaher1]

I think whomever it is should still have to win a fight to get in before. Not really fair that Green should get a "bye" to the 2nd round. Williams is unproven at 168.

I'd like to see the winner of Bute-Andrade 2 get into the tourney myself. Guarantee us a true Supermiddle World Champion.

[ross]

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

[hfahrenheit]

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

[JazMerkin]

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.

[hfahrenheit]

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.

In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.

[JazMerkin]

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.

In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.

Have you seen Andrade's chin? Kessler put everything he had on to it & didn't make a dent. I can't see anybody KOing Andrade, I think he could beat anyone in the tournament apart from Kessler & Abraham, not that he necessarily would. He has gradually improved as well, he boxed very well in his last fight against Tsypko.

[CFH]

To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.

In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.

Have you seen Andrade's chin? Kessler put everything he had on to it & didn't make a dent. I can't see anybody KOing Andrade, I think he could beat anyone in the tournament apart from Kessler & Abraham, not that he necessarily would. He has gradually improved as well, he boxed very well in his last fight against Tsypko.

At some point his chin is going to crumble and he is going to get stopped. It'll happen in much the same way it happened to Margarito and the way it is going to happen to Froch. He takes way too many clean shots and one day his chin will give way.

As for the tournament, he'd probably beat Dirrell and I'd give him a good chance of beating Froch (what a bloodbath that would be). Abraham would be another interesting one, Andrade could probably take that as well. He'd murder Taylor.

[hfahrenheit]

To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.

In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.

Have you seen Andrade's chin? Kessler put everything he had on to it & didn't make a dent. I can't see anybody KOing Andrade, I think he could beat anyone in the tournament apart from Kessler & Abraham, not that he necessarily would. He has gradually improved as well, he boxed very well in his last fight against Tsypko.

Read: "He boxed very well against a nobody."

He does have a great chin, and would compete with Froch for "fighter with worst defense" and "fighter who gets hit the most" awards.

I think he'd probably knockout Froch (Froch has the lesser chin), and get ruined by AA, a la Sugar Shane v. Margarito.

[Myk_Myk]

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

I just don't think Winky is big or powerful enough for this bunch.

[amat]

I'm in favor of the Miranda-Green boxoff. IMO, Miranda would beat Green a second time even if Green brought 100% of his colon into the ring.

[hfahrenheit]

Bika I think would be the most interesting.

Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

I just don't think Winky is big or powerful enough for this bunch.

He definitely isn't powerful enough; he doesn't have enough power for 154lbs.

But, you have to consider the tournament by it's weakest member: Carl Crotch. Could Winky beat the Crotchinator? My answer is yes.

-Winky wouldn't fade in late rounds
-Winky is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Froch in technical ability
-Winky would stand and fight Froch
-the fight wouldn't be a "hug" fest

[Myk_Myk]

I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

Bute should be the first choice.

then Williams, then Winky.

Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.

I just don't think Winky is big or powerful enough for this bunch.

He definitely isn't powerful enough; he doesn't have enough power for 154lbs.

But, you have to consider the tournament by it's weakest member: Carl Crotch. Could Winky beat the Crotchinator? My answer is yes.

-Winky wouldn't fade in late rounds
-Winky is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Froch in technical ability
-Winky would stand and fight Froch
-the fight wouldn't be a "hug" fest

True, but that wouldn't be his only opponent, and Williams and Bhop showed how he can be beat if you have a reach advantage and keep the right distance. Plus, he mixes it up more than he used to, and against these bigger men/bigger punchers...

[Spicoli]

Green is a very talented boxer but has just seemed to stagnate.Looked like a destroyer vs exposed De leon but not exactly beating down the doors making a statement.Sounds as if his spot is next up so a bit mute.

I'd opt for Andrade If I had my choice.Dont think he's really getting deserved credit for improvements he's mad.Far from the face first give and take guy we came to love vs Kessler.The man was actually coming in behind a jab,throwing straight shots last out...fine tuning things.Head movement for gods sake....Has really found a patience and another gear.Of course it only takes being stunned or one war to draw a guy back into his roots and backseat the skill,should be great rematch with Bute.One where I think he needs to attack much,much more given Butes style.

[hfahrenheit]

I just don't think Winky is big or powerful enough for this bunch.

He definitely isn't powerful enough; he doesn't have enough power for 154lbs.

But, you have to consider the tournament by it's weakest member: Carl Crotch. Could Winky beat the Crotchinator? My answer is yes.

-Winky wouldn't fade in late rounds
-Winky is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Froch in technical ability
-Winky would stand and fight Froch
-the fight wouldn't be a "hug" fest

True, but that wouldn't be his only opponent, and Williams and Bhop showed how he can be beat if you have a reach advantage and keep the right distance. Plus, he mixes it up more than he used to, and against these bigger men/bigger punchers...

I agree, it would be a dangerous thing for him, and by no means would I have him winning...

he's just better than Froch, who is there only by virtue of his belt.

[Myk_Myk]

...Williams is unproven at 168.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. He seems to have the frame for it, but that's really getting thrown into the fire at 10lbs heavier than he's ever fought. Plus his big advantage in height and reach would be greatly diminished against these guys that are naturally bigger than the lower weight class fighters he's been in with. Not saying he wouldn't persevere, just like you said, he should really be more of a known quantity at that weight, before being thrown into a tourney like this.

Ever since Green had his intestinal problems and lost to Miranda, I haven't been so enamored with him. Seems like all he does is look at his shoes. Really weird. I think he getting better about that, but still...