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    Default Re: Best replacement for JT in the Super Six

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    Bika I think would be the most interesting.

    Calzaghe said Bika hit him harder than anyone else could.

    He will come to fight and has a decent chin.

    Bute and Andrade are already fighting each other but after that?

    This tournament leaves them out in the cold really as these boys will already be tied up, if it stays as it should be.
    I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

    Bute should be the first choice.

    then Williams, then Winky.

    Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.
    To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.
    In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

    Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfahrenheit View Post
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    I would have zero problem with Bika. But add Bute, and the winner is a unified, undisputed champion; add Williams or Winky, and your American audience just got a lot larger.

    Bute should be the first choice.

    then Williams, then Winky.

    Based on the Kessler v Andrade fight, I don't think Andrade has any place in the tournament.
    To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.
    In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

    Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.
    Have you seen Andrade's chin? Kessler put everything he had on to it & didn't make a dent. I can't see anybody KOing Andrade, I think he could beat anyone in the tournament apart from Kessler & Abraham, not that he necessarily would. He has gradually improved as well, he boxed very well in his last fight against Tsypko.

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    Default Re: Best replacement for JT in the Super Six

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.
    In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

    Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.
    Have you seen Andrade's chin? Kessler put everything he had on to it & didn't make a dent. I can't see anybody KOing Andrade, I think he could beat anyone in the tournament apart from Kessler & Abraham, not that he necessarily would. He has gradually improved as well, he boxed very well in his last fight against Tsypko.
    At some point his chin is going to crumble and he is going to get stopped. It'll happen in much the same way it happened to Margarito and the way it is going to happen to Froch. He takes way too many clean shots and one day his chin will give way.

    As for the tournament, he'd probably beat Dirrell and I'd give him a good chance of beating Froch (what a bloodbath that would be). Abraham would be another interesting one, Andrade could probably take that as well. He'd murder Taylor.

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    Default Re: Best replacement for JT in the Super Six

    I think that Andrade could beat Abraham but if Bute wins he should be invited into the turnament, I wonder if Bute will accept the challenge if Taylor pulls out

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    Default Re: Best replacement for JT in the Super Six

    Bute would be the most appropriate in terms of what he holds in the 168 weight class

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    Default Re: Best replacement for JT in the Super Six

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    To be fair though, Andrade has improved quite a bit since the first fight. I still think Kessler would handle him, but if he beats Bute, then he deserves to be in there.
    In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

    Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.
    Have you seen Andrade's chin? Kessler put everything he had on to it & didn't make a dent. I can't see anybody KOing Andrade, I think he could beat anyone in the tournament apart from Kessler & Abraham, not that he necessarily would. He has gradually improved as well, he boxed very well in his last fight against Tsypko.
    Read: "He boxed very well against a nobody."

    He does have a great chin, and would compete with Froch for "fighter with worst defense" and "fighter who gets hit the most" awards.

    I think he'd probably knockout Froch (Froch has the lesser chin), and get ruined by AA, a la Sugar Shane v. Margarito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfahrenheit View Post
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    In that case, I would just think less of Bute, and then would insist Andrade be put in the tournament just so he could be quickly relieved of the belt.

    Andrade, i think, lacks the ability to change--he certainly didn't look any different against Bute. The only persons I would want to see him fight would be AA and Froch, just because somebody would get knocked out. Everybody else would just do some variation of what Kessler did.
    Have you seen Andrade's chin? Kessler put everything he had on to it & didn't make a dent. I can't see anybody KOing Andrade, I think he could beat anyone in the tournament apart from Kessler & Abraham, not that he necessarily would. He has gradually improved as well, he boxed very well in his last fight against Tsypko.
    Read: "He boxed very well against a nobody."

    He does have a great chin, and would compete with Froch for "fighter with worst defense" and "fighter who gets hit the most" awards.

    I think he'd probably knockout Froch (Froch has the lesser chin), and get ruined by AA, a la Sugar Shane v. Margarito.
    Abraham doesn't have the work rate to KO a guy like Andrade, let's not get carried away because he did so against Taylor.

    Tsypko is a better fighter than that, prior to that fight he had only debatably lost twice, once a complete robbery in France & the other a very controversial defeat to Jeff Lacy.

    I'm by no means saying he's some kind of excellent boxer, but he's exciting to watch, has a great heart & chin & is a really likeable guy. If he beats Bute he deserves to be there ahead of either Williams or Winky Wright who've done nothing at SMW before. We still don't know if Williams can take a good Middleweight punch let alone from guys even bigger.

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