Roy jones jr vs Mike Tyson

[Majesty]

See the problem with these dream matchups is fans usually will take a prime one fighter and a current of another. When talking about Tyson vs Roy people will use a prime tyson against a current roy.

[Cleon]

Iron Mike would of crack that chin
Jones was amazing but Tyson was a beast

[El Kabong]

RJJ doesn't have the style that has proven effective vs Tyson. I do think Roy was great, but it's hard to say when his only heavyweight fight was vs John Ruiz and he didn't fight any prime fighters that had anything close to Tyson's style or were as dangerous to him as Tyson would have been.

As for Ali, that's good of you ICB, not to buy into the hype. I think he was a great fighter, but I can't think of him as THE GREATEST OF ALL-TIME. That pisses some people off, but I feel other fighters acheived more than he did, maybe he was dealt a bad hand with the Vietnam War and all but just because he was an icon of the Black counter culture right next to MLK and Malcom X doesn't mean he's automatically the greatest fighter of all time. He was blessed with good opponents and he was physically bigger than all of them and they all had pretty limited styles at that time. The opponents Ali fought were either plodding sluggers like Foreman and Frazier or boxers with little to no power.

[JonesJrMayweather]

RJJ doesn't have the style that has proven effective vs Tyson. I do think Roy was great, but it's hard to say when his only heavyweight fight was vs John Ruiz and he didn't fight any prime fighters that had anything close to Tyson's style or were as dangerous to him as Tyson would have been.

As for Ali, that's good of you ICB, not to buy into the hype. I think he was a great fighter, but I can't think of him as THE GREATEST OF ALL-TIME. That pisses some people off, but I feel other fighters acheived more than he did, maybe he was dealt a bad hand with the Vietnam War and all but just because he was an icon of the Black counter culture right next to MLK and Malcom X doesn't mean he's automatically the greatest fighter of all time. He was blessed with good opponents and he was physically bigger than all of them and they all had pretty limited styles at that time. The opponents Ali fought were either plodding sluggers like Foreman and Frazier or boxers with little to no power.

Exactly...ali fought a bunch huge sluggers. And he used his at the time athletic ability to beat them. I agree that he is one of the best heavy's of all time..but p4p Roy would kick his ass.

Roy coming in at 185-190 against 205-210 ali. Roy would murder his ass.

[rjj tszyu]

RJJ doesn't have the style that has proven effective vs Tyson. I do think Roy was great, but it's hard to say when his only heavyweight fight was vs John Ruiz and he didn't fight any prime fighters that had anything close to Tyson's style or were as dangerous to him as Tyson would have been.

As for Ali, that's good of you ICB, not to buy into the hype. I think he was a great fighter, but I can't think of him as THE GREATEST OF ALL-TIME. That pisses some people off, but I feel other fighters acheived more than he did, maybe he was dealt a bad hand with the Vietnam War and all but just because he was an icon of the Black counter culture right next to MLK and Malcom X doesn't mean he's automatically the greatest fighter of all time. He was blessed with good opponents and he was physically bigger than all of them and they all had pretty limited styles at that time. The opponents Ali fought were either plodding sluggers like Foreman and Frazier or boxers with little to no power.

Exactly...ali fought a bunch huge sluggers. And he used his at the time athletic ability to beat them. I agree that he is one of the best heavy's of all time..but p4p Roy would kick his ass.

Roy coming in at 185-190 against 205-210 ali. Roy would murder his ass.

Roy wasn't anywhere near natural at that weight though he added loads of muscle, I actually have a DVD of him with a new trainer and how he put his weight on for his fight at HW. He used loads of weight training which hampered his speed come fight time, luckily Ruiz was still way slower than him.

Ali on the other hand made his weight being in great "NATURAL" shape and was very comfortable at HW. And as for his competition NO other HW champ has ever had such a great resume IMO.

[Master]

RJJ doesn't have the style that has proven effective vs Tyson. I do think Roy was great, but it's hard to say when his only heavyweight fight was vs John Ruiz and he didn't fight any prime fighters that had anything close to Tyson's style or were as dangerous to him as Tyson would have been.

As for Ali, that's good of you ICB, not to buy into the hype. I think he was a great fighter, but I can't think of him as THE GREATEST OF ALL-TIME. That pisses some people off, but I feel other fighters acheived more than he did, maybe he was dealt a bad hand with the Vietnam War and all but just because he was an icon of the Black counter culture right next to MLK and Malcom X doesn't mean he's automatically the greatest fighter of all time. He was blessed with good opponents and he was physically bigger than all of them and they all had pretty limited styles at that time. The opponents Ali fought were either plodding sluggers like Foreman and Frazier or boxers with little to no power.

Foreman, Frazier, Liston would be in anyone's top 10 heavies, and Ali fought them at their best. No other heavyweight could say the same thing.

[El Kabong]

Foreman, Frazier, Liston would be in anyone's top 10 heavies, and Ali fought them at their best. No other heavyweight could say the same thing.

Yes they were great fighters, but given Ali's skill set they weren't best suited to fight them is all I am saying....Liston doesn't make my top 20 heavies