Michael Moore's "Capitalism"

[Kirkland Laing]

I'll let the quote art speak for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUYx8vUZyhY
And I'll let that speak for me

I'm not watching videos, unles you can come up with a coherent thought in your own words forget it. In your own time with the Bill Maher thing.

[El Kabong]

...then I won't waste my time arguing with you. If you don't want to watch the videos that prove my points without me even having to say anything about them then fine. Meanwhile you can take quotes out of context and twist them around into whatever you want to make them.....no wonder you love Michael Moore

[VictorCharlie]

Kinda lame Kirk. I didn't watch any of the videos but don't ask him to show you how maher is a hypocrite and then dismiss them. Your M.O. is all about demanding people to back up their statements. Lyle provided a video. I dont' know whether it actually backs up his statement or not but its kind of "hypocritical" to simply dismiss them. I also don't see how saying what Rush is or isn't as being relevant to what Maher is or isn't. Seems more like a distraction or deflection of the actual question.

[El Kabong]

"I'm a libertarian, which means I'm against the government doing almost anything" - Bill Maher

And yet Bill Maher is OK with the US Government: tightening gun laws to the point where people aren't allowed to have any guns; running banks, healthcare, and car companies.....so basically he's not a libertarian at all and he's for the government running a lot of things.

[Gandalf]

Sorry to hijack my own thread, but why on earth is this Capitalism film unavailable? There are no signs of it ever coming to Korea and it has shown no sign of surfacing online.

How on earth am I supposed to get my fix if there is no supply anywhere?

[Kirkland Laing]

"I'm a libertarian, which means I'm against the government doing almost anything" - Bill Maher

And yet Bill Maher is OK with the US Government: tightening gun laws to the point where people aren't allowed to have any guns; running banks, healthcare, and car companies.....so basically he's not a libertarian at all and he's for the government running a lot of things.

And there's the full quote :

I'm a libertarian, which means I'm against the government doing almost anything. But citizens having arsenals? No, that is the kind of rough stuff I would like the government to get involved in....It just seems the debate, --you know, they will not give an inch. There are many attempts to pass a law in states just requesting a limit of buying one gun a month, and it doesn't pass. People are like, "What about Christmas?" I mean, one gun a month. If you started when you were 18, by the time you were 60 that's over a thousand guns. I don't care how small your penis is, that should be enough guns.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kinda lame Kirk. I didn't watch any of the videos but don't ask him to show you how maher is a hypocrite and then dismiss them. Your M.O. is all about demanding people to back up their statements. Lyle provided a video. I dont' know whether it actually backs up his statement or not but its kind of "hypocritical" to simply dismiss them. I also don't see how saying what Rush is or isn't as being relevant to what Maher is or isn't. Seems more like a distraction or deflection of the actual question.

I just want to see a specific instance. I'm not going to bother watching videos.

[El Kabong]

And there's the full quote :

I'm a libertarian, which means I'm against the government doing almost anything. But citizens having arsenals? No, that is the kind of rough stuff I would like the government to get involved in....It just seems the debate, --you know, they will not give an inch. There are many attempts to pass a law in states just requesting a limit of buying one gun a month, and it doesn't pass. People are like, "What about Christmas?" I mean, one gun a month. If you started when you were 18, by the time you were 60 that's over a thousand guns. I don't care how small your penis is, that should be enough guns.

Your point? That doesn't keep him from contradicting himself...I don't know of ANY Libertarians who want MORE gun control

[El Kabong]

I just want to see a specific instance. I'm not going to bother watching videos.

...and there you go, I gave you one and yet again you lose.


BOOM GO BACK TO YO MAMA!

[Andre]

I just want to see a specific instance. I'm not going to bother watching videos.

...and there you go, I gave you one and yet again you lose.


BOOM GO BACK TO YO MAMA!

"Ding"

Round two.

[Kirkland Laing]

And there's the full quote :

I'm a libertarian, which means I'm against the government doing almost anything. But citizens having arsenals? No, that is the kind of rough stuff I would like the government to get involved in....It just seems the debate, --you know, they will not give an inch. There are many attempts to pass a law in states just requesting a limit of buying one gun a month, and it doesn't pass. People are like, "What about Christmas?" I mean, one gun a month. If you started when you were 18, by the time you were 60 that's over a thousand guns. I don't care how small your penis is, that should be enough guns.

Your point? That doesn't keep him from contradicting himself...I don't know of ANY Libertarians who want MORE gun control

You can be a Republican and support abortion, it doesn't make you a hypocrite. You can believe in a whole smorgasbord of things that various political groups support and it doesn't make you a hypocrite. I'm sure there's something the GOP stand for that you don't agree with, something that you hold a liberal opinion on, but that doesn't make you a hypocrite in the same way that Bill Maher isn't a hypocrite for not being a doctrinaire libertarian. What makes you a hypocrite is when you, say, attack and criticise other people for race-baiting and always bringing racism into any argument, claim that this kind of behaviour is a blight on society etc. while at the same time being probably the best-known race-baiter/racism-as-stock-in-trade individual in America. Like Rush Limbaugh is. That's hypocrisy.

[El Kabong]

....the point is Maher doesn't really say what he doesn't want the government to do other than not teach religion or "legislate morality", that's all fine and dandy but you can't say you don't want the government to do much of anything and then turn around and say "they should run banks, take guns away, and make cars"....Maher = hypocrit, you lose, I win.



NEXT!

[Kirkland Laing]

....the point is Maher doesn't really say what he doesn't want the government to do other than not teach religion or "legislate morality", that's all fine and dandy but you can't say you don't want the government to do much of anything and then turn around and say "they should run banks, take guns away, and make cars"....Maher = hypocrit, you lose, I win.



NEXT!

When you post something factually correct you'll have a chance of winning an argument. But you'll never beat me in an argument because you never use facts and evidence. When did Bill Maher support the government running the banks or the car companies? An actual quote please, answer using facts only and no fucking videos.

[El Kabong]

When you post something factually correct you'll have a chance of winning an argument. But you'll never beat me in an argument because you never use facts and evidence. When did Bill Maher support the government running the banks or the car companies? An actual quote please, answer using facts only and no fucking videos.

...OH AND healthcare too, let's not forget that.

See the genius of videos is that you can SEE and HEAR the words right out of his own mouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitvFZTOrp4

Some of the highlights since you can't be hassled with watching a video

"How stupid is it when people say 'That's all we need, the Federal government telling Detroit how to make cars or telling Wells Fargo how to run a bank, do you want them to look like the Post Office?' ......yeah, actually"

"Truth is recent years have made me much more wary of government doing the opposite, of stepping aside and letting unregulated private companies run things it is simply too greedy to trust with"


Chalk it up MOFO! Lyle 2 - Kirkland 0....Lyle's pitching a shut out....BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!!

[Kirkland Laing]

When you post something factually correct you'll have a chance of winning an argument. But you'll never beat me in an argument because you never use facts and evidence. When did Bill Maher support the government running the banks or the car companies? An actual quote please, answer using facts only and no fucking videos.

...OH AND healthcare too, let's not forget that.

See the genius of videos is that you can SEE and HEAR the words right out of his own mouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitvFZTOrp4
Some of the highlights since you can't be hassled with watching a video

"How stupid is it when people say 'That's all we need, the Federal government telling Detroit how to make cars or telling Wells Fargo how to run a bank, do you want them to look like the Post Office?' ......yeah, actually"

"Truth is recent years have made me much more wary of government doing the opposite, of stepping aside and letting unregulated private companies run things it is simply too greedy to trust with"


Chalk it up MOFO! Lyle 2 - Kirkland 0....Lyle's pitching a shut out....BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!!

Explain how he's being hypocritical here.