Who is the hardest puncher in the sport currently P4P ?

[rjj tszyu]

Even back to the Am's the right he caught Solis with at the World Champs imagine that was with 10 oz gloves and no headgear, Solis would of been put to sleep.

Sure he's KO'd a ton of guys, but his power has to carry to heavyweight for him to be considered a P4P power puncher and so far he's KO'd 2 guys who have already been KO'd and his record is littered with guys who had been KO'd before he got to them.

Haye was the FIRST to stop: Lasse Johanssen and Giacobbe Fragomeni...that is all

You compare that to Wlad and Vitali and who they have stopped it's obvious Haye doesn't belong in the picture YET. Had he moved from 175 to cruiserweight and to heavyweight KO-ing everyone left and right YES I would agree with you putting him in there but right now it's a little premature.

BUT he has still KO'd pretty much everyone that has been put in front of him and Fragomeni was a good KO when you consider he hasn't been KO'd or beaten for that matter since and is now WBC champ at 40 and is facing Zsolt Erdei next, which will no doubt be a big test.

[El Kabong]

I understand that but if you compare him to other heavyweights alone he's a touch behind the curve.

Wlad was the first to stop: Chagaev, Brock, Thompson, Brewster, Mercer

Vitali was the first to stop: Sam Peter, Arreola, Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald

Those aren't even the full lists of guys the Klitschko's were the first to stop, but the impressive thing is that those fighters they stopped had fought and beaten or lasted the distance with other big time power punchers.

I am fully aware a chin can go bad after getting cracked and all, but I'm just saying what the Klitschko's have done at heavyweight puts them ahead of Haye in the P4P rankings.

[rjj tszyu]

I understand that but if you compare him to other heavyweights alone he's a touch behind the curve.

Wlad was the first to stop: Chagaev, Brock, Thompson, Brewster, Mercer

Vitali was the first to stop: Sam Peter, Arreola, Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald

Those aren't even the full lists of guys the Klitschko's were the first to stop, but the impressive thing is that those fighters they stopped had fought and beaten or lasted the distance with other big time power punchers.

I am fully aware a chin can go bad after getting cracked and all, but I'm just saying what the Klitschko's have done at heavyweight puts them ahead of Haye in the P4P rankings.

They are both older and had a lot more fights too!

I know where your coming from though, but until someone stands upto one of his big shots, I personally am going to think of David Haye as a big p4p puncher!

[El Kabong]

OK that's reasonable to think of him as a big power puncher until someone stands up to his punches, but to classify him in the P4P rankings it's premature.

If he was to fight Sam Peter and 1 punch KO him then I would say HELL YES he's up at the top of the P4P rankings in power punching, but he hasn't and it took him 5 rounds to stop Monte Barrett whom Solis just dropped in 2 rounds with 1 punch

[rjj tszyu]

OK that's reasonable to think of him as a big power puncher until someone stands up to his punches, but to classify him in the P4P rankings it's premature.

If he was to fight Sam Peter and 1 punch KO him then I would say HELL YES he's up at the top of the P4P rankings in power punching, but he hasn't and it took him 5 rounds to stop Monte Barrett whom Solis just dropped in 2 rounds with 1 punch

You can't really judge things like that though. I mean Audley Harrison stopped Danny Williams in 3 whereas it took Vitali 8 rounds to get him out and as someone mentioned earlier Solis went the distance with Julius Long who Audley KO'd in 2 and then Bonin who it took Audley 9 rounds to get out, got demolished in 1 by Haye!!

[El Kabong]

Well if you really wanted to make a point you would have brought up Sinan Samil Sam stopping DW in 6, because the Audley-Williams fight happened after that beat down Vitali put on him....and there was no reason that fight deserved to go 8.

But I digress, Vitali's record speaks for itself

[rjj tszyu]

Well if you really wanted to make a point you would have brought up Sinan Samil Sam stopping DW in 6, because the Audley-Williams fight happened after that beat down Vitali put on him....and there was no reason that fight deserved to go 8.

But I digress, Vitali's record speaks for itself

Well really I could go on forever with these silly little points. I was just trying to say you can't really go off who stopped who at what stage!