I understand that but if you compare him to other heavyweights alone he's a touch behind the curve.

Wlad was the first to stop: Chagaev, Brock, Thompson, Brewster, Mercer

Vitali was the first to stop: Sam Peter, Arreola, Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald

Those aren't even the full lists of guys the Klitschko's were the first to stop, but the impressive thing is that those fighters they stopped had fought and beaten or lasted the distance with other big time power punchers.

I am fully aware a chin can go bad after getting cracked and all, but I'm just saying what the Klitschko's have done at heavyweight puts them ahead of Haye in the P4P rankings.