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[ICB]

Ruiz is shite, he faked being hit low by Holyfield and pummeled in 30 seconds by Tua, stop making him out to be better than he is.

No im actually just wondering why Lennox Lewis, gets so much credit for beating Evander Holyfield, when John Ruiz beat the same Evander Holyfield and managed to floor him. Yet he gets no credit just because he's not a fan friendly fighter to watch.

No he wasn't the same.

Going into the Lewis fight Holyfield hadn't lost since the third Bowe fight, was the WBA and IBF champion, had avenged his loss (in style) to Moorer and was the man that destroyed Mike Tyson.

Going into the Ruiz fight he was coming off two losses to Lewis and no longer World heavyweight champ.

Huge difference.

I don't see how 7 months makes a huge difference, which is basically what it was. Quite a few people thought Evander Holyfield beat Lennox Lewis in there 2nd fight, so he was coming off a good performance.

You could also say Evander Holyfield looked shot in the 1st Lennox Lewis fight, he couldn't get any punches off just like in the 1st Michael Moorer fight.

[Drago]

john ruiz is utter shite

the end

[Fenster]

No im actually just wondering why Lennox Lewis, gets so much credit for beating Evander Holyfield, when John Ruiz beat the same Evander Holyfield and managed to floor him. Yet he gets no credit just because he's not a fan friendly fighter to watch.

No he wasn't the same.

Going into the Lewis fight Holyfield hadn't lost since the third Bowe fight, was the WBA and IBF champion, had avenged his loss (in style) to Moorer and was the man that destroyed Mike Tyson.

Going into the Ruiz fight he was coming off two losses to Lewis and no longer World heavyweight champ.

Huge difference.

I don't see how 7 months makes a huge difference, which is basically what it was. Quite a few people thought Evander Holyfield beat Lennox Lewis in there 2nd fight, so he was coming off a good performance.

You could also say Evander Holyfield looked shot in the 1st Lennox Lewis fight, he couldn't get any punches off just like in the 1st Michael Moorer fight.

Look, even if you think 7 months doesn't make a difference (which it clearly does, especially to aging fighters seemingly past their pomp), you asked why Ruiz doesn't get the credit Lewis did.

Evander was a LOSING fighter going into the Ruiz fight. A LOSS makes a huge difference to the way a fighter is perceived. Holyfield was no longer THE MAN. Lewis was. Ruiz beat a FORMER champion coming off two LOSSES.

[HattonTheHammer]

No he wasn't the same.

Going into the Lewis fight Holyfield hadn't lost since the third Bowe fight, was the WBA and IBF champion, had avenged his loss (in style) to Moorer and was the man that destroyed Mike Tyson.

Going into the Ruiz fight he was coming off two losses to Lewis and no longer World heavyweight champ.

Huge difference.

I don't see how 7 months makes a huge difference, which is basically what it was. Quite a few people thought Evander Holyfield beat Lennox Lewis in there 2nd fight, so he was coming off a good performance.

You could also say Evander Holyfield looked shot in the 1st Lennox Lewis fight, he couldn't get any punches off just like in the 1st Michael Moorer fight.

Look, even if you think 7 months doesn't make a difference (which it clearly does, especially to aging fighters seemingly past their pomp), you asked why Ruiz doesn't get the credit Lewis did.

Evander was a LOSING fighter going into the Ruiz fight. A LOSS makes a huge difference to the way a fighter is perceived. Holyfield was no longer THE MAN. Lewis was. Ruiz beat a FORMER champion coming off two LOSSES.

agreed

With that stupid logic you could entertain danny williams and kevin mcbride beating tyson as just as big accomplishments as what holyfield and douglas did to him!!