Haye-Valuev - Who wins? Fact.

[killersheep]

Depends if Haye can fight for 3mins of every round. If so, and hes ok with his stamina, then its possible he can beat him cos Valuev aint no great shakes. HOWEVER, i question Hayes ability to fight for 12rounds, 3mins a round so my £10 will be on a Valuev win in R10. Or thereabouts. Like to see Haye win as theres a side to him that our American friends have yet to see. Seems like a nice enough guy. Forget all the shouting and shit, thats all to sell tickets.

I don't know that term, what does it mean?

[johnmaff36]

Depends if Haye can fight for 3mins of every round. If so, and hes ok with his stamina, then its possible he can beat him cos Valuev aint no great shakes. HOWEVER, i question Hayes ability to fight for 12rounds, 3mins a round so my £10 will be on a Valuev win in R10. Or thereabouts. Like to see Haye win as theres a side to him that our American friends have yet to see. Seems like a nice enough guy. Forget all the shouting and shit, thats all to sell tickets.

I don't know that term, what does it mean?

It just means that hes very ordinary and nothing special.

[Mark TKO]

the more I think about this I believe Haye can win a UD over there. I know how difficult it can be to get a decision over there but if he keeps his head and sticks to his gameplan he can give them no choice.

Recklessness and not being in 12 round condition is the only way he can lose this.

However despite how clumsy, and lacking in natural ability, Valuev is let's be honest if Haye can knock him out it will be sensational - and get people talking about the heavies again.

[smashup]

the more I think about this I believe Haye can win a UD over there. I know how difficult it can be to get a decision over there but if he keeps his head and sticks to his gameplan he can give them no choice.

Recklessness and not being in 12 round condition is the only way he can lose this.

However despite how clumsy, and lacking in natural ability, Valuev is let's be honest if Haye can knock him out it will be sensational - and get people talking about the heavies again.

I agree and think Haye will win this and history tells us that Valuev finds the smaller faster fighters difficult

Haye could even force a stoppage here

If you can find a way around his freakish size then for me Valuev really is two bob. Fact

[Kev]

the more I think about this I believe Haye can win a UD over there. I know how difficult it can be to get a decision over there but if he keeps his head and sticks to his gameplan he can give them no choice.

Recklessness and not being in 12 round condition is the only way he can lose this.

However despite how clumsy, and lacking in natural ability, Valuev is let's be honest if Haye can knock him out it will be sensational - and get people talking about the heavies again.

I agree and think Haye will win this and history tells us that Valuev finds the smaller faster fighters difficult

Haye could even force a stoppage here

If you can find a way around his freakish size then for me Valuev really is two bob. Fact

History tells us that Valuev finds any fighter ranked in the top 50 difficult

[El Kabong]

Haye probably pulls this one off, but I think there will be some scary moments for him....like when Valuev first hits him in the back of the head and that WILL happen.

[Kev]

Am I alone in thinking that if Haye doesn't make easy work of Valuev he's pretty much exposed?

Valuev has beaten nobody of note. His best win is against John Ruiz, and that took him two tries and even the Germans thought Ruiz beat him first time around.

He's beaten only complete jobbers. His best win was against a woeful Segei lyakhovich who fought a dreadful dreadful fight that night.

Chagaev beat him easily and he should have lost to Evander Holyfield. I mean come on, would ANYBODY in the top 20 lose to Evander Holyfield now?

Valuev is worse than Primo Carnero, he's only better than Tye Fields because he has a chin.

He's a complete joke of a world champion and Haye, even at 100 lbs and 7 inches smaller should be able to smash him.

As Valuev is so much bigger I won't demand Haye blows him out in a few rounds, but if he doesn't win virtually round and win them with ease I don't see how he can be considered anything like a threat to the Klitschko's.

Wlad and Vitali would not lose a round to Valuev.

[Kirkland Laing]

Haye probably pulls this one off, but I think there will be some scary moments for him....like when Valuev first hits him in the back of the head and that WILL happen.

So basically what you're saying is that you think David Haye is a world-class heavyweight boxer.

[killersheep]

the more I think about this I believe Haye can win a UD over there. I know how difficult it can be to get a decision over there but if he keeps his head and sticks to his gameplan he can give them no choice.

Recklessness and not being in 12 round condition is the only way he can lose this.

However despite how clumsy, and lacking in natural ability, Valuev is let's be honest if Haye can knock him out it will be sensational - and get people talking about the heavies again.

I agree and think Haye will win this and history tells us that Valuev finds the smaller faster fighters difficult

Haye could even force a stoppage here

If you can find a way around his freakish size then for me Valuev really is two bob. Fact

History tells us that Valuev finds any fighter ranked in the top 50 difficult

History tells us everyone is smaller and faster than Valuev.