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It's also worth noting that by far the most succesful crossover was from MMA to boxing with Matt Skelton, leaving K-1 in his early 30's and taking up boxing at 34 and getting all the way to a world title shot against Ruslan Chagaev.

Then you have guys like the Irish cabbie Marty Rogan becoming Commonwealth champ having only started boxing in his mid 30's.

It's ridiculous to suggest that because Anderson Silva lost a boxing fight over 10 years ago that he isn't an elite athlete now.

Skills for skills he is absolutely at the level of a Roy Jones or a Floyd Mayweather, as is Georges St Pieree, Cung Lee and Lyoto Machida.

Sure none of them can throw 7 hooks in a second but all four of them would kill Roy Jones in a real fight.
I don't know about that as best switch over. What about a 48 year old, fat, Ray Mercer, who was "never" the top man at HW in boxing by quite a distance, knocking the fuck out of Sylvia in 7 seconds who was only 33 and was just 2 years earlier the UFC HW champ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fme4CDQC26w
Yeah the Slyvia ko was embarrassing for him most definitely, but he had already been dominated by Randy Couture who almost blew him away in the first round and then got destroyed by Fedor, he was hardly the main man at heavyweight.

The UFC is just one organisation within MMA it's not that the only MMA heavyweights fight in the UFC so Slyvia was never top dog in the MMA world either, no more so than Mercer ever was.

His loss to Mercer was an embarassment to himself but these things can happen with 4 oz gloves in a no holds barred contest.

Mercer himself was completely embarrassed by Kimbo Slice, who in turn was embarrassed by Seth Petronelli and Roy Munson, that's part of the nature of MMA, anything can happen.

If you are trying to claim that Mercer would go further in the UFC than Skelton did in world heavyweight boxing however you are completely delusional, Mercer I believe is about 1-4 in the MMA or something like that.
As far as I know he has only had 2 MMA fights, Kimbo and Sylvia and I thought he was paid to throw the fight with Kimbo!! Might be wrong but they were the rumours flying around at the time.

And what has Skelton done in boxing? Fought at british level been whupped off a taxi driver and got a undesrved shot at the WBA belt?? wow!

Mercer is also 48 and should not be in any kind of fighing game let alone knocking out 33 year old ex champions at their own game.

Also is UFC not the most elite org in MMA? I agree maybe they don't have ALL the best fighters (Fedor) but they do have most of them, do you not agree? Also did Sylvia not beat Arlovski twice? I thought Arlovski was supposed to be the dogs bollocks at one point.