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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    undefeated heavy hitting Paulus Moses

    That's terrible news not good news.

    Moses isn't the world champ. He has some shitty WBA version stripped off Marquez. Who regards him as champ? Come on now.. is he even top 10 Ring ranked?
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    Marquez is the 'super' champion.

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Marquez is the 'super' champion.
    Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

    It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

    And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

    Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.
    Last edited by Fenster; 11-03-2009 at 09:41 PM.
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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Marquez is the 'super' champion.
    Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

    It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

    And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

    Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

    How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    MAb may not be the fighter he once was as age and time served takes its toll, but he has as much heart as any man who steps in the ring. I don't know how much longer that will carry him, but it has to be respected. Would love to see him leave on a winning note.

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Marquez is the 'super' champion.
    Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

    It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

    And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

    Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

    How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.
    I have no problem with Barrera getting a shot at Moses. Just I wouldn't class him as THE world lightweight champion if he won. Obviously he would be A "world" champion though. Just like Khan is "world" champion for beating Kotelnik.
    Last edited by Fenster; 11-04-2009 at 07:29 AM.
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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

    It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

    And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

    Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

    How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.
    I have no problem with Barrera getting a shot at Moses. Just I wouldn't class him as THE world lightweight champion if he won. Obviously he would be A "world" champion though. Just like Khan is "world" champion for beating Kotelnik.
    there's a lot of world champions about

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post


    How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.
    I have no problem with Barrera getting a shot at Moses. Just I wouldn't class him as THE world lightweight champion if he won. Obviously he would be A "world" champion though. Just like Khan is "world" champion for beating Kotelnik.
    there's a lot of world champions about
    A lot of "world" champions. Sadly for the sport of boxing only a handful can claim to be THE genuine WORLD champion.
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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Marquez is the 'super' champion.
    Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

    It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

    And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

    Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

    Actually, Moses was WBA champion when they decided to make the Marquez vs. Diaz fight for the vacant WBA 'Super' Title purely because the vacant WBO belt was on the line. Marquez is only WBA champion because that organisation is full of shit.

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Marquez is the 'super' champion.
    Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

    It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

    And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

    Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

    Actually, Moses was WBA champion when they decided to make the Marquez vs. Diaz fight for the vacant WBA 'Super' Title purely because the vacant WBO belt was on the line. Marquez is only WBA champion because that organisation is full of shit.
    Diaz was the champ when they decided to split the title - for the Freitas unification fight, and lost before the Marquez fight, so you're right he shouldn't have been champ, but neither would Moses be if it hadn't been split.

    Yes.. the WBA along with all other alphabets are utter crap.
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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    undefeated heavy hitting Paulus Moses

    That's terrible news not good news.

    Moses isn't the world champ. He has some shitty WBA version stripped off Marquez. Who regards him as champ? Come on now.. is he even top 10 Ring ranked?
    MAB is going to get sparked and it will be a sad thing to see. I doubt I even tune into this one.

    I wasn't even able to see Tyson on Opera because they were breaking him down, so I just shut it off because that is not the kind of memory I want to be left with about Iron Mike. I was not even a huge fan of his but at the end of the day, he was feared in the ring before his life got flipped upside down.

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    I don't wanna see MAB fight on to be honest, he don't have the same guts and heart he once had.

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    I don't wanna see MAB fight on to be honest, he don't have the same guts and heart he once had.
    um you saw the last fight?

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    I don't wanna see MAB fight on to be honest, he don't have the same guts and heart he once had.
    um you saw the last fight?
    The Kahn fight I saw

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    Default Re: Barrera gets WBA world title fight in January!

    I'm curious to see how Barrera looks. It's been a long lay off. It's hard to say where he is right now though. The Khan fight didn't tell us anything and the few fights before that were against cab drivers.

    Prior to that he did give Pacquiao his toughest fight in recent memory and gave Marquez a very good run for his money, in a weight class that Marquez fights more effectively at. He might well still have a bit in him, but we can only tell from him getting some rounds under his belt.

    I've no issues with the fight. It's as good a warm up as you can expect.

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