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    Default Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in...

    No he doesn't look in good condition at all however I've heard it's far harder to reach a certain fitness if you're over 7 ft tall. Something to do with the joints and bones. I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though.

    My prediction for tomorrow is for a Valuev win on points. Valuev will clip Haye on the chin atleast once and he'll be going down. People forget how poor Haye's chinhas been in the past let alone his questionable stamina! He's fought about 7 rounds in 2 years hasn't he??

    I see nothing more than a Haye loss here I'm afraid. I'd love it if he won though. Would be fab for British boxing and the Heavyweight scene.

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    Default Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu View Post
    No he doesn't look in good condition at all however I've heard it's far harder to reach a certain fitness if you're over 7 ft tall. Something to do with the joints and bones. I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though.

    My prediction for tomorrow is for a Valuev win on points. Valuev will clip Haye on the chin atleast once and he'll be going down. People forget how poor Haye's chinhas been in the past let alone his questionable stamina! He's fought about 7 rounds in 2 years hasn't he??

    I see nothing more than a Haye loss here I'm afraid. I'd love it if he won though. Would be fab for British boxing and the Heavyweight scene.
    Every time Haye has been over it is from a shot to the top of the head as in temple area not a shot to the chin FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu View Post
    No he doesn't look in good condition at all however I've heard it's far harder to reach a certain fitness if you're over 7 ft tall. Something to do with the joints and bones. I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though.

    My prediction for tomorrow is for a Valuev win on points. Valuev will clip Haye on the chin atleast once and he'll be going down. People forget how poor Haye's chinhas been in the past let alone his questionable stamina! He's fought about 7 rounds in 2 years hasn't he??

    I see nothing more than a Haye loss here I'm afraid. I'd love it if he won though. Would be fab for British boxing and the Heavyweight scene.
    Every time Haye has been over it is from a shot to the top of the head as in temple area not a shot to the chin FACT.
    That's even more of a concern because the chin is the best place to catch someone and with a big reach like Valuev's he's gonna land with the jab dozens of times in this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu View Post
    No he doesn't look in good condition at all however I've heard it's far harder to reach a certain fitness if you're over 7 ft tall. Something to do with the joints and bones. I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though.

    My prediction for tomorrow is for a Valuev win on points. Valuev will clip Haye on the chin atleast once and he'll be going down. People forget how poor Haye's chinhas been in the past let alone his questionable stamina! He's fought about 7 rounds in 2 years hasn't he??

    I see nothing more than a Haye loss here I'm afraid. I'd love it if he won though. Would be fab for British boxing and the Heavyweight scene.
    Every time Haye has been over it is from a shot to the top of the head as in temple area not a shot to the chin FACT.
    That's even more of a concern because the chin is the best place to catch someone and with a big reach like Valuev's he's gonna land with the jab dozens of times in this fight.
    Well if you want to lose your money put it on Valuev. You will get a good price if you shop around. You can get 10/3 for a Valuev KO and 4/1 for a decision win.

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    Default Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in...

    i bet if he shaves off all that hair, Valuev would weigh in at about 275 lbs

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    Default Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu View Post
    . I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though.
    To look at him: probably not an impressive amount, and if compared to his body weight probably nothing terms of relative strength.

    He's big, knows how to use it and can spoil... but athletically speaking he's pretty useless.

    Size, not strength is his only stand out asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu View Post
    . I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though.
    To look at him: probably not an impressive amount, and if compared to his body weight probably nothing terms of relative strength.

    He's big, knows how to use it and can spoil... but athletically speaking he's pretty useless.

    Size, not strength is his only stand out asset.

    Saw this reply to the same question on another forum that made me laugh

    He's probably not pound for pound strong. But he's strong in absolute terms.
    An a beetle can lift 50 times it's body weight, but a horse can only lift about half it's own weight. Still, if they fought, my money is on the horse.

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    Default Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in...

    What if it's a venomous beetle or a beetle carrying some form of deadly parasite/virus and the horse hasn't had it's sugar lumps?

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    Blister beetle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "The blister beetle genus Epicauta is highly toxic to horses . A few beetles consumed in a single feeding of alfalfa hay may be lethal. Poisonings have also been reported after use of "Spanish fly"-type folk medicines, and after handling blister beetle individuals. The toxic chemical is cantharidin."



    And Valuev isn't no Stallion either



    But yeah, the point is that Valuev isn't athletic, but that won't be the deciding factor in this fight. The deciding factor will be whether he can employ the right tactics and use his size to negate haye's work... not how much the hair blubber bag can bench press.

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    This could be an good fight, if your blind!! Nikolay Valuev is one of the worst if not the worst fighter who has an "ABC" belt!! Who has he fought and actually won , Oh yea No One!!! He Lost to Evander Holyfield but because they were in Germany and that horrible Italian Judge Pierluigi Poppi if he is one of the judges during this fight watch out for a great decision!! Seriously I don't know how anyone can say this is even an average fighter he is terrible, man friggen Manny Pacquiao could beat him!! I can't stand Haye mouth but he should KO the Yeti through the ring!!

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    If Haye doesn't KO Valuev he loses. He can put him down once per round and still lose. I want Haye to win, but I don't think it'll happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitalifan4life View Post
    This could be an good fight, if your blind!! Nikolay Valuev is one of the worst if not the worst fighter who has an "ABC" belt!! Who has he fought and actually won , Oh yea No One!!! He Lost to Evander Holyfield but because they were in Germany and that horrible Italian Judge Pierluigi Poppi if he is one of the judges during this fight watch out for a great decision!! Seriously I don't know how anyone can say this is even an average fighter he is terrible, man friggen Manny Pacquiao could beat him!! I can't stand Haye mouth but he should KO the Yeti through the ring!!
    Actually the fight was in Switzerland...
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    Default Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu View Post
    No he doesn't look in good condition at all however I've heard it's far harder to reach a certain fitness if you're over 7 ft tall. Something to do with the joints and bones. I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though.

    My prediction for tomorrow is for a Valuev win on points. Valuev will clip Haye on the chin atleast once and he'll be going down. People forget how poor Haye's chinhas been in the past let alone his questionable stamina! He's fought about 7 rounds in 2 years hasn't he??

    I see nothing more than a Haye loss here I'm afraid. I'd love it if he won though. Would be fab for British boxing and the Heavyweight scene.
    Well he doesn't look like he could bench press much i doubt he is as strong as me im 5ft 11inch 18stone (252lbs) and i can bench press 170kg (374lbs) or 26stone 10lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Well he doesn't look like he could bench press much i doubt he is as strong as me im 5ft 11inch 18stone (252lbs) and i can bench press 170kg (374lbs) or 26stone 10lbs
    I hope that smiley means you aren't being serious? You reckon you can bench 4 plates a side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Well he doesn't look like he could bench press much i doubt he is as strong as me im 5ft 11inch 18stone (252lbs) and i can bench press 170kg (374lbs) or 26stone 10lbs
    I hope that smiley means you aren't being serious? You reckon you can bench 4 plates a side?
    It depends what he is bencing. I bench 100 kg free weights (work high reps usually, 70 reps of 80kg), but on a machine I have been as high as 200kg. When you don't have to balance high weights are far easier so it is not so absurd.

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