Haye Valuev two outcomes

El Kabong · 11-07-2009 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by sumkalambay

haye's just a puncher. but he's gonna beat valuev.

He MIGHT beat Valuev....he SHOULD beat Valuev, but give me some boxing brains over brawn any day of the week.

Holyfield and Chagaev did well vs Valuev because they are smart fighters who have decent defense. When they can land more than 1 punch at a time they do it, when they can block a punch they block it....David Haye seems to fight like he's in some sort of video game, he likes to fight flat footed, throwing 1 big bomb at a time, and paying little to no attention to defense....and that is why I figured he would have benefitted from LEARNING how to be a heavyweight with more heavyweight bouts, but if he wants to learn his lesson the hard way, by wandering through the division like a cat without whiskers constantly getting stuck in places, then he is obviously going to learn a very tough lesson in a very hard way.

If David Haye simply fought with Holyfield's style, I would see him having great success in the division, but this fight is close to being a lose-lose situation for Haye, if he wins he was supposed to, if he loses he's a step away from being Audley Harrison, if he struggles with Valuev then I'm betting he shies away from fighting Wlad or Vitali and relegates himself to trying to defend his title vs whoever the WBA/Don King promotes

**sumkalambay** · 11-07-2009 04:15 PM

you're overrating Valuev big time.

El Kabong · 11-07-2009 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by sumkalambay

you're overrating Valuev big time.

Am I? I thought Haye's camp was overrating him, saying bullcrap about how Valuev has never been hurt, which is an outright lie.

I don't know what is going to happen in this fight, but I do know if Haye fights a dumb fight he can still win but he can also be humiliated. I know Haye has flaws in his game which recently he's been able to cover up because he's bigger than his opponents, he's in better shape, and he has decent power (as a cruiserweight, we can't say how his power is at heavyweight yet)...I'm not sure if Valuev has what it takes to uncover those flaws, but I am interested in the outcome.