Haye-Valuev - Who wins? Fact.

[Spicoli]

Very well put Spicoli...to me Haye should box, he should aim for a decision and if a door opens where he can rip Valuev with big shots he can go ahead and do it, but to think he's just going to have an easy time with this fight and that he can continue to bully heavyweights the way he bullied the cruiserweights is ridiculous.

He might do well to absolutly forget the head early,Wookie not exactly tight and solid in the wasteline,and there is ton of it.Just alot of wasted energy and might run into a stupid punch getting in.Wonder if Haye will be stamped with the blown up cruiser label ala Holyfield?Well lets see how his first live hvy goes.

[superheavyrhun]

I honestly reckon that Haye should be the first to beat Valuev on home turf. (The reason I say this, is that if Holyfield lost to Valuev, then certainly Chagaev lost to Valuev...but the German scoring argument is another debate entirely.

If Haye plays it smart, and boxes his way through, then he's a dead cert, as no-one can give Valuev a round when he struggles to land any punches (hopefully), but if Haye goes for the KO, as he probably will do, throwing big shots at a chin the size of most people's heads, then it's a result that really depends on the matter behind Valuev's chin. If it's granite, he wins, anything softer, and Haye will finish him.