Haye v Valuev PPV.

[Dark Lord Al]

I have just finished watching the fight , and it was a stinker.
The PPV package which SKY put together was a joke , the overall fight bill was a joke also.
Back to the fight , countless times Haye didn't throw a single punch for over 90 seconds into a round , i found this very frustrating indeed , Valuev also showed what a 1 dimensional fighter he is. I know Haye claims he injured his right hand , which explains why he was so reluctant to actually fight.
I personally thought it was a hard fight to score , and at the end really didn't think that Haye would get the nod.
Yes Haye will be more exciting in the future , and yes the difference in size made it difficult for Haye to hit Valuev , but i cannot remember paying PPV for such a CRAPPY show as bad as this one.
I also would be interested in the Haye fans view , on fights with Wlad and Vitali , after seeing this performance.

SKY THIS IS FOR YOU

Thoughts please guys.

I agree mate fucking shite show, I mean surely sky could of put a decent english card on the show aswell fucking money robbing bastards, I reckon though this did great numbers I know loads and loads of casual fans who were purchasing this quite suprising that.


The fight itself I was suprsied Haye won really but in reality he did the better work, I hope he was telling the truth about his hand because he was awful with his attacks should of thrown way more punches and possibly would of had him out of there if he did.

But it was a mature performance by Haye and I think overall he deserved the nod 95% of the time Valuev was either hitting air or gloves.

Skel what are your views on Haye v Wlad and Vitali now ? have they changed after this fight ?

[skel1983]

I have just finished watching the fight , and it was a stinker.
The PPV package which SKY put together was a joke , the overall fight bill was a joke also.
Back to the fight , countless times Haye didn't throw a single punch for over 90 seconds into a round , i found this very frustrating indeed , Valuev also showed what a 1 dimensional fighter he is. I know Haye claims he injured his right hand , which explains why he was so reluctant to actually fight.
I personally thought it was a hard fight to score , and at the end really didn't think that Haye would get the nod.
Yes Haye will be more exciting in the future , and yes the difference in size made it difficult for Haye to hit Valuev , but i cannot remember paying PPV for such a CRAPPY show as bad as this one.
I also would be interested in the Haye fans view , on fights with Wlad and Vitali , after seeing this performance.

SKY THIS IS FOR YOU

Thoughts please guys.

I agree mate fucking shite show, I mean surely sky could of put a decent english card on the show aswell fucking money robbing bastards, I reckon though this did great numbers I know loads and loads of casual fans who were purchasing this quite suprising that.


The fight itself I was suprsied Haye won really but in reality he did the better work, I hope he was telling the truth about his hand because he was awful with his attacks should of thrown way more punches and possibly would of had him out of there if he did.

But it was a mature performance by Haye and I think overall he deserved the nod 95% of the time Valuev was either hitting air or gloves.

Skel what are your views on Haye v Wlad and Vitali now ? have they changed after this fight ?

I think Haye has slim chances but slim. I think the jabs of the two borthers will be to much to handle for Haye and he will eventully be broken up and knocked out, I think he needs a couple of fights first though.

[AdamGB]

Fighters say it all the time but I do suspect that the hand injury was legit, he hit valuev in I think the second round on the forhead, valuev's head didn't move, bone is harder than concrete, at the time I was thinking more along the lines of "how is haye going to hurt valuev (which he did, once he managed to get a shot around valuev's guard that wasn't deflected by his shoulders) if he can't get the leverage to move his head" but with hind site that alone was very likely to damage his hand, which would explain the lack of output.

Other than not being as active as he would of probably liked himself I don't think Haye can be faulted too much.

[BIG H]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

[AdamGB]

I don't think he was as hurt as it looked from a far, but he definetly felt it

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

maybe they should check Hayes wraps?

[BIG H]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

maybe they should check Hayes wraps?

Shouldn't you be off wacthing some guy fatting into his own mooey ?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

maybe they should check Hayes wraps?

Shouldn't you be off wacthing some guy fatting into his own mooey ?

see you in half an hour shall I?

[Gandalf]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

He didn't seem all that hurt to me either. A little trip and immediately grinning as if to say "yeah, right!".

It was an atrocious fight and Haye is very lucky to get out of there with the win. There was no sense of urgency about him whatsover which was worrying.

Against either Klitschko he would fall well behind as they would just build up the points by simply doing more than him.

Maybe the hand really was a factor, but if not then this is no a good sign for Haye. Others have performed better against Valuev than that, including an ancient Holyfield.

[smashup]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

Agree mate, he was off balance too and def seemed to slip.

Piss poor card really and just glad i never paid for it.

Well done Haye though.

Good tactics.

[Master]

Thankfully I did not pay for it, but will watch the repeat.

[ono]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

I'm watching it again now. He didn't slip. His legs deserted him quite badly. It wasn't a clean shot really. Probably down to tiredness aswell. There was no tangle of legs, he didn't slip on the canvas, his legs went, then he shook his head whilst looking rather confused. He then grabbed Haye and held until the referee broke them up.

[piye]

Valuev was hurt. If Haye catches Wlad with some of those shots he'll knock him out. He'll struggle with Vitali though as the man has the work rate power and chin.

[GuyIncognito76]

It was a terrible fight, but that was Haye's best chance of winning given the physical differences.

I knew Haye had won as soon as I saw Don King trying to muscle in with him, what was it he said after the Fraiser/Foreman fight? "I came with the champ and I left with the champ"

Haye did land more punches, and more good punches, than Valuev who apart from always walking forward did very little else.

So the ends justify the means. I don't rate Ruiz but I think he is an ideal oppenent for Haye and hopefully an opponent he can look good against/

[ninjaspy3]

Am I the only one that thinks Valuev was not hurt in the 12th, he just slipped

Go back and watch the replay, Haye taps him with a left that hardly connects and Valuev slips and then shakes his head. I definitely don't think he was hurt

I'm watching it again now. He didn't slip. His legs deserted him quite badly. It wasn't a clean shot really. Probably down to tiredness aswell. There was no tangle of legs, he didn't slip on the canvas, his legs went, then he shook his head whilst looking rather confused. He then grabbed Haye and held until the referee broke them up.

I'm glad someone actually paid attention to the fight. Yeah, they even showed the replay of this in slow motion and it was clear that Valuev didn't slip. There is entirely too much of people trying to discredit Haye's performance on here. Even if he did just enough to win.