Valuev Won That Fight!

[killersheep]

Winners don't need excuses.

They do in boxing.

To Amat's point though if someone thought Froch won, the same logic applies to Valuev winning.
if someone thought Dirrell won, the same logic applies to Haye winning.

No it's different. I thought Dirrell won but thought Haye won this fight.

Dirrell gave off the AURA of a loser (by moaning, holding, jumping on the floor, looking like he doesn't want to fight) - which can clearly have an effect on the judges.

Haye acted like the BOSS the whole fight. It wasn't impressive, but clear who the superior fighter was.

^ mandatory

I didn't get Haye being the boss at all except for a few rounds.
His output was definately not that of a boss. Dirrell landed plenty
more PUNCHES, regardless of body language, which in fairness
should have an impact on the judges as well.

[Fenster]

They do in boxing.

To Amat's point though if someone thought Froch won, the same logic applies to Valuev winning.
if someone thought Dirrell won, the same logic applies to Haye winning.

No it's different. I thought Dirrell won but thought Haye won this fight.

Dirrell gave off the AURA of a loser (by moaning, holding, jumping on the floor, looking like he doesn't want to fight) - which can clearly have an effect on the judges.

Haye acted like the BOSS the whole fight. It wasn't impressive, but clear who the superior fighter was.

^ mandatory

I didn't get Haye being the boss at all except for a few rounds.
His output was definately not that of a boss. Dirrell landed plenty
more PUNCHES, regardless of body language, which in fairness
should have an impact on the judges as well.

Well at least the judges got it right this time

[killersheep]

No it's different. I thought Dirrell won but thought Haye won this fight.

Dirrell gave off the AURA of a loser (by moaning, holding, jumping on the floor, looking like he doesn't want to fight) - which can clearly have an effect on the judges.

Haye acted like the BOSS the whole fight. It wasn't impressive, but clear who the superior fighter was.

^ mandatory

I didn't get Haye being the boss at all except for a few rounds.
His output was definately not that of a boss. Dirrell landed plenty
more PUNCHES, regardless of body language, which in fairness
should have an impact on the judges as well.

Well at least the judges got it right this time

I agree.