Valuev Won That Fight!

[Fenster]

yea you make them for him lol

Winners don't need excuses.

They do in boxing.

To Amat's point though if someone thought Froch won, the same logic applies to Valuev winning.
if someone thought Dirrell won, the same logic applies to Haye winning.

No it's different. I thought Dirrell won but thought Haye won this fight.

Dirrell gave off the AURA of a loser (by moaning, holding, jumping on the floor, looking like he doesn't want to fight) - which can clearly have an effect on the judges.

Haye acted like the BOSS the whole fight. It wasn't impressive, but clear who the superior fighter was.