What is wrong with people today?

[El Kabong]

I think the problem with Haye was more that the way he was running his mouth led people to expect a certain type of performance from him.

I will plain out say, that is my problem with David Haye. He runs his mouth too fucking much, he said he was going to KO Valuev and his punch output was HORRIBLE.

Wladimir makes no excuses about his style, he is what he is, he fights using his height reach and talent, he still gets the KO for the most part. If Haye wants to do the same, then fine, but he must stop running his mouth about being exciting, by all means talk trash but when you talk about how you will fight don't bullshit.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Your smear campaign wont work Lyle.
Haye's number will now be permamnently higher than Wladimirs.

Why, becuase Wladimir is as booring inside the ring as he is out of it... Even when he is knocking guys out, it's dreadfully boring

That's not a good sign mate

[El Kabong]

Your smear campaign wont work Lyle.
Haye's number will now be permamnently higher than Wladimirs.

Why, becuase Wladimir is as booring inside the ring as he is out of it... Even when he is knocking guys out, it's dreadfully boring

That's not a good sign mate

...people said Mike Tyson was more exciting than Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield and look how well that went for Iron Mike

[rjj tszyu]

Your smear campaign wont work Lyle.
Haye's number will now be permamnently higher than Wladimirs.

Why, becuase Wladimir is as booring inside the ring as he is out of it... Even when he is knocking guys out, it's dreadfully boring

That's not a good sign mate

...people said Mike Tyson was more exciting than Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield and look how well that went for Iron Mike

IMO Evander is the most exciting HW ever.

[AdamGB]

Tyson more exciting at HW than Holyfield?...

9 times out of 10 with Tyson it was a forgone conclusion... hardly excitement.

9 times out of 10 with evander it was a competative war.

[Cressa121]

I don't think Haye could have fought any other way in this fight. Many people doubted his ability to stick to a gameplan and didn't think he would have the stamina to go 12 rounds (I know thats what i thought) but he boxed a clever fight. I don't think many people could look good against someone like Valuev, his size makes it difficult to be effective and eye catching. I'm sure we'll se more excitement and aggression from Haye in the Ruiz fight next year

[Scrap]

Interestingly, had loads of phonecalls in the last 40 hrs. All from people in the Game and Fighters maybe 50 calls, only 1 saw it for Haye makes you think.

[ninjaspy3]

Interestingly, had loads of phonecalls in the last 40 hrs. All from people in the Game and Fighters maybe 50 calls, only 1 saw it for Haye makes you think.

Yes, it does..., it makes me think people are full of it.

[Pugilistic]

Haye didn't run, he boxed.

He could of certainly thrown more though.

[SmeelMainly]

Your smear campaign wont work Lyle.
Haye's number will now be permamnently higher than Wladimirs.

Why, becuase Wladimir is as booring inside the ring as he is out of it... Even when he is knocking guys out, it's dreadfully boring

That's not a good sign mate

...people said Mike Tyson was more exciting than Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield and look how well that went for Iron Mike

IMO Evander is the most exciting HW ever.

I agree. I forget which round it was, either 10th or 11th, of Bowe-Holyfield I. One of the most exciting rounds of boxing I've ever seen. Tops for me would be the whole Hagler-Hearns fight

[paddy448]

Why is moving around intelligently nowadays always considered running? Is it foolish for a guy like Haye, who is known to have a weak chin to move away from a much larger opponent and not allow them to get off? Its just so frustrating to constantly hear about how these guys are constantly running when some of the most liked and famous boxers in the sports' history (Ali, Leonard, Roy Jones Jr) made some of the most boring fights imaginable with a lot more movement than guys get criticized for nowadays. Back then it was called skill and ring generalship, but today its called running. If you are in a ring even if its 24x24, if you were fighting a nobody, it doesn't matter how fast they are you could track them down if you had any modicum of skill. It isn't just speed and movement that is the reason why guys like MAyweather, Dirrell, Wladimir, Vitali, Haye today were so elusive. A lot of it has to do with skill. I think maybe its people who have never boxed, but maybe you should go into a gym, find a guy who is even relatively good, and try keeping away from him.

agree with u 100 percent mate

[cleveland steamer]

Nothing wrong with it, just dont expect the sport to grow if it cant attract the casual fan who would prefer to see toe to toe action