Haye really did break his hand!!

[rjj tszyu]

OK let me pose this question to you Haye fans.....could David have injured his hand without breaking it and have it swell up like that Is it even a remote possibility YES, therefore I will not consider it broken until it is PROVEN so.

I mean Hasim Rahman's head swole up when he fought Evander Holyfield, it doesn't mean his skull was broken. Just because something swole up doesn't immediately mean it's broken.

I could have accpeted "maybe Haye hurt his hand" or the more factual "Haye's hand was badly swollen after the fight" but "Haye broke his hand" doesn't hold water until it's actually proven

Your skull doesn't have small metacarpal bones in it, your hand does. When your hand swells to that extent more often than not at least one of these are broken hense broken hand.

[El Kabong]

You ASSUME it's a broken hand although it could just as easily be swelling

[skel1983]

You ASSUME it's a broken hand although it could just as easily be swelling

Lyle how much of your life do you reckon has been taken up with you talking about David Haye??

Id guess at about 3 weeks.

[El Kabong]

It takes time to get the facts through to you Brits...I don't know what the deal is, maybe you guys are slow or something

[rjj tszyu]

You ASSUME it's a broken hand although it could just as easily be swelling

Ok you win. I give up.

[El Kabong]

You ASSUME it's a broken hand although it could just as easily be swelling

Ok you win. I give up.

....tenacity pays off. I train all day for this baby!!!

[rjj tszyu]

You ASSUME it's a broken hand although it could just as easily be swelling

Ok you win. I give up.

....tenacity pays off. I train all day for this baby!!!

Thats exactly how I feel right now

[Wayne]

OK Adam, I'll be a sucker and totally forget about Haye "injuring his back" while shaddow boxing just to weasel his way out of a fight vs Wladimir

OK rjjtszyu, I've said it before I'll say it again read this very slowly and carefully WHAT HAYE DID AT CRUISERWEIGHT MEANS JACK SHIT AT HEAVYWEIGHT!

Wladimir doesn't have to back up his mouth because he doesn't run it....not everyone is going to have David Haye's problems because they don't run their fucking mouths! David runs his mouth, draws attention to himself and then when he can't back up his talk his fans come to his aid or he MAY have broken his hand...I mean correct me if I'm wrong Haye does have 2 hands correct Why not use the other one??

He did at the end, his left that landed on Valuev had him staggering round like Wlad was doing against Brewster just before he fell on his face like a demented retard.

Also if what he did at Cruiserweight means Jack shit why do the likes of Mayweather get to move up and fight De la Hoya at 154lbs when he had never fought there before? Just because someone once weighed less doesn't mean they have never fought before.

I see Lyle's point here. Cruiserweight is nowhere near as thick as the Welterweight division. WW is arguably the thickest in all of boxing, whereas Cruiser is relatively easier to dominate. Other than Haye, who was there?

[rjj tszyu]

OK Adam, I'll be a sucker and totally forget about Haye "injuring his back" while shaddow boxing just to weasel his way out of a fight vs Wladimir

OK rjjtszyu, I've said it before I'll say it again read this very slowly and carefully WHAT HAYE DID AT CRUISERWEIGHT MEANS JACK SHIT AT HEAVYWEIGHT!

Wladimir doesn't have to back up his mouth because he doesn't run it....not everyone is going to have David Haye's problems because they don't run their fucking mouths! David runs his mouth, draws attention to himself and then when he can't back up his talk his fans come to his aid or he MAY have broken his hand...I mean correct me if I'm wrong Haye does have 2 hands correct Why not use the other one??

He did at the end, his left that landed on Valuev had him staggering round like Wlad was doing against Brewster just before he fell on his face like a demented retard.

Also if what he did at Cruiserweight means Jack shit why do the likes of Mayweather get to move up and fight De la Hoya at 154lbs when he had never fought there before? Just because someone once weighed less doesn't mean they have never fought before.

I see Lyle's point here. Cruiserweight is nowhere near as thick as the Welterweight division. WW is arguably the thickest in all of boxing, whereas Cruiser is relatively easier to dominate. Other than Haye, who was there?

I used Mayweather as an example. Throughout history fighters have moved up in weight and got a title shot quick. And to be fair Haye was undisputed CW, Mayweather was only WBC (and Ring) champ.

Fair enough Cruiser was not stacked with talent but neither is HW.

[AdamGB]

The BBC are now also reporting that Haye's hand is 'badly disfigured'.

Does anybody have links to the post fight stuff? I'd like to see it for myself.

[chip]

saw his hand on GMTV this morning looks really swelled compared to the other one which he held up for comparison

[rjj tszyu]

It says in the Sun (so it must be true ) that it's his 5th metacarpal.

[porkypara]

So now Conrad's not lying, but Sky have tricked him?

What did they do? Inflate a rubber glove and stick it out of haye's sleve? Do you think Conrad has seen a prop hand Lyle.

yes/no will do.

Did he see an X-Ray? Then NO I don't believe Haye broke his hand

I give up. There is absolutley no talking sense to you Lyle. It is common knowledge that Roy Jones had a broken hand when he beat Hopkins, but has anyone ever seen an X-Ray?

Can't really see haye walking round with his X-Ry in his back pocket, can you?

More to the point did Ken Norten really break Muhammed Ali's jaw.

I think Ali was bluffing had filled his mouth with cotten wool.

[1-hit Wonder]

Oh man this is pure comedy gold !!!

[El Kabong]

More to the point did Ken Norten really break Muhammed Ali's jaw.

I think Ali was bluffing had filled his mouth with cotten wool.

Well Joe Frazier swole up Ali's jaw pretty good without it getting broken so, I am sure people wanted an X-ray before they jumped to conclusions.

David Haye lost any and all credibility by lying about his back injury...so forgive me for questioning his ailments