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rjj tszyu
Originally Posted by
Bilbo
I think Haye just about deserved to win. But I think both John Ruiz in their first fight and Evander Holyfield beat him more impressively. Oh and Chagaev of course.
When a fighter loses to John Ruiz, Ruslan Chagaev and an almost 50 old Holyfield you know he ain't up to much.
Haye performed about as well as a nearly 50 Evander and John Ruiz, one of the maligned and mediocre champs in recent years.
All Haye proved was that he's not even close to being one of the top players in the division.
If he fights a Klitschko he loses as uneventfully and routinely as Rahman, Brock, Arreola, Chagaev etc did before him.
He brings nothing new to the table apart from a big mouth.
Odlanier Solis will be a bigger threat to the top guys than Haye. Even Thomas Adamek has as much chance of making an impression imo.
Haye is faster, punches harder and has more skill than everyone you have mentioned. FACT.
Ruiz and Evander are jokes in the heavyweight divison. So is Larry Donald. Ruslan Chagaev is, as we saw against Wlad lightyears away from being the best at heavyweight.
Haye being faster, a bigger puncher (none of those guys are punchers) and having more skill is no big deal at all, for the supposed saviour of the heavyweight division.
Povetkin, Chambers, Solis and Dimitresko are all more promising prospects than Haye.
By the way, watch this clip fast forward to around the 4.30 mark and listen to the GERMAN crowd when Valuev gets the decision over Larry Donald. Even his OWN fans boo the crap out of the decision......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MwR...eature=related
Let's make that 5 fights he's lost.
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