Solis wants to knock David Haye out again

[rjj tszyu]

If Solis came to fight IN SHAPE he would do well....not hard to pick up rounds when the guy you are fighting throws maybe 5 punches a round

Oh right, I hadn't realised Solis was 7'2, 320lbs and had a 85" reach, but he must be as the only time Haye has fought cautiously thats what he faced, I just thought Solis was the fat bastard who couldn't even KO Julius Long. Even Tye Fields KO'd that bum.

Yes, but David Haye's punch output has never been the greatest...it has nothing to do with the way Haye fought vs Valuev.

Who needs to throw too many when you land near enough every single one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOF0XLBhfbo

[ElTerribleMorales]

Oh right, I hadn't realised Solis was 7'2, 320lbs and had a 85" reach, but he must be as the only time Haye has fought cautiously thats what he faced, I just thought Solis was the fat bastard who couldn't even KO Julius Long. Even Tye Fields KO'd that bum.

Yes, but David Haye's punch output has never been the greatest...it has nothing to do with the way Haye fought vs Valuev.

Who needs to throw too many when you land near enough every single one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOF0XLBhfbo

Solis was pretty damn accurate against Barrett, knocking him out 3 rounds earlier than Haye, IMO his shots looked a lot harder and a lot more accurate, only way i see Haye winning is if Solis takes him lightly and doesn't get in the proper shape, the way he's come into the ring as of late has been a joke, he makes Arreola look like if he was in as good shape as Holyfield

[rjj tszyu]

Yes, but David Haye's punch output has never been the greatest...it has nothing to do with the way Haye fought vs Valuev.

Who needs to throw too many when you land near enough every single one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOF0XLBhfbo

Solis was pretty damn accurate against Barrett, knocking him out 3 rounds earlier than Haye, IMO his shots looked a lot harder and a lot more accurate, only way i see Haye winning is if Solis takes him lightly and doesn't get in the proper shape, the way he's come into the ring as of late has been a joke, he makes Arreola look like if he was in as good shape as Holyfield

I wouldn't go that far.

In fact no your right Solis is way better than Haye and more powerful because he KO'd Barret quicker, then again look how much more powerful than Wlad he must be. It took him 2 more rounds than Haye

[El Kabong]

Yes he was able to land punches on TOMAZ BONIN....do you fail to recognize that other fighters in the heavyweight division have better defense than him? I mean Audley Harrison was also able to KO Bonin, so David Haye's performance....frankly not that impressive.

[rjj tszyu]

Yes he was able to land punches on TOMAZ BONIN....do you fail to recognize that other fighters in the heavyweight division have better defense than him? I mean Audley Harrison was also able to KO Bonin, so David Haye's performance....frankly not that impressive.

Audley Harrison's wasn't a 1 round demolition job either. I think it was the 8th or 9th. Haye has got better since this fight. He has won 4 world chamionships since.

[Memphis]

Yes he was able to land punches on TOMAZ BONIN....do you fail to recognize that other fighters in the heavyweight division have better defense than him? I mean Audley Harrison was also able to KO Bonin, so David Haye's performance....frankly not that impressive.

You fail to recognise that Haye wont fight everyone the way he fought Valuev? Who are you to question anyones judgement?

Audley got a dodgy stoppage against Bonin in the 9th round I believe, Bonin was doing alright as well.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who needs to throw too many when you land near enough every single one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOF0XLBhfbo

Solis was pretty damn accurate against Barrett, knocking him out 3 rounds earlier than Haye, IMO his shots looked a lot harder and a lot more accurate, only way i see Haye winning is if Solis takes him lightly and doesn't get in the proper shape, the way he's come into the ring as of late has been a joke, he makes Arreola look like if he was in as good shape as Holyfield

I wouldn't go that far.

In fact no your right Solis is way better than Haye and more powerful because he KO'd Barret quicker, then again look how much more powerful than Wlad he must be. It took him 2 more rounds than Haye

umm it''s sarcasm buddy, and didn't all the the Haye nuthuggers start raving about that "Haye is gonna destroy Wlad cause he blew Barrett faster than he did" when Haye was set up to face Wlad?!?

[ryanman]

Lyle, your logic isn't too hot.
Yes Solis took Barrett out quicker than Haye did. So Solis is more powerful?
Well, Solis couldn't stop Julius Long, something that Audley did in 2 rounds. So is Audley more powerful than Solis?
By your logic he is.

[El Kabong]

rjjtszyu fine, OH David Haye is just sooooo amazing the way he never stops talking shit and the way he can put away lackluster heavyweights oh please give me more of that ....Tomaz Bonin is not a world beater, he's nothing special so why is a "one round destruction" of him impressive Wladimir knocked Ray Austin the funk out with 1 hand, but the Haye fans seem to overlook that, all they say is "Wlad could end his fights sooner than he does"....and they say it, yet they aren't impressed by that, when was the last time David Haye broke a top heavyweight's will

AdamGB, Haye is never going to be mistaken for a pressure fighter...and when he does press the action he hasn't learned (that we know of) how to pace himself, it might be something he shows improvement in with Ruiz.

Lyle, your logic isn't too hot.
Yes Solis took Barrett out quicker than Haye did. So Solis is more powerful?
Well, Solis couldn't stop Julius Long, something that Audley did in 2 rounds. So is Audley more powerful than Solis?
By your logic he is.

#1 I said nothing of the sort

#2 ElTerribleMorales posted that because he was poking fun of the David Haye fanboys who thought "Haye beat Monte Barrett faster than Wladimir did so Haye must be better"....and I agree people did go overboard with that.

[Kev]

rjjtszyu fine, OH David Haye is just sooooo amazing the way he never stops talking shit and the way he can put away lackluster heavyweights oh please give me more of that ....Tomaz Bonin is not a world beater, he's nothing special so why is a "one round destruction" of him impressive Wladimir knocked Ray Austin the funk out with 1 hand, but the Haye fans seem to overlook that, all they say is "Wlad could end his fights sooner than he does"....and they say it, yet they aren't impressed by that, when was the last time David Haye broke a top heavyweight's will

AdamGB, Haye is never going to be mistaken for a pressure fighter...and when he does press the action he hasn't learned (that we know of) how to pace himself, it might be something he shows improvement in with Ruiz.

Lyle, your logic isn't too hot.
Yes Solis took Barrett out quicker than Haye did. So Solis is more powerful?
Well, Solis couldn't stop Julius Long, something that Audley did in 2 rounds. So is Audley more powerful than Solis?
By your logic he is.

#1 I said nothing of the sort

#2 ElTerribleMorales posted that because he was poking fun of the David Haye fanboys who thought "Haye beat Monte Barrett faster than Wladimir did so Haye must be better"....and I agree people did go overboard with that.

I rewatched both Haye vs Barret and Solis vs Barret today.

Haye and Monte basically fought as equals, taking it in turns to throw shots at each other and both took turns in pressing and then backing off, Haye won because he hits harder, and probably faster too.

Solis just took charge of the fight from the first bell. There was no exchanges or balance attack vs defence between two combatants. He just came out and bullied Barrett, marching into his face and smashing him around the ring. Barrett was never given a chance to get into that fight.

Solis is in the same mould as Kirkland and Angulo imo, just a big tank of a man who relentless comes forward and breaks fighters down.

Haye isn't that kind of guy at all. He's not strong on the inside, he doesn't have that ring generalship and aggression. He stands off and tries to box his opponent with punches, sometimes coming forward and throwing big shots, other times backing off and he gets hit.

I just can't see him making any impression on guys like Wlad, Vitali or Solis. I think they just bully him as much as outbox him.

Even guys like Povetkin and Chambers I find it hard to see how he wins. Povetkin works every minute of every round whereas Haye takes rounds off, he postures and stops throwing for long periods. He'd just be outworked.

A fight with Chambers would be interesting. I think boxing wise Chambers schools him, but Chambers himself can get a bit gunshy at times and his workrate can drop. He's not a hitter either. I think that fight could be a 50/50 matchup although obviously as a hater I'd side with Chambers.

Arreola vs Haye is a great matchup, not sure how that one goes.

[Violent Demise]

Oh right, I hadn't realised Solis was 7'2, 320lbs and had a 85" reach, but he must be as the only time Haye has fought cautiously thats what he faced, I just thought Solis was the fat bastard who couldn't even KO Julius Long. Even Tye Fields KO'd that bum.

Yes, but David Haye's punch output has never been the greatest...it has nothing to do with the way Haye fought vs Valuev.

Who needs to throw too many when you land near enough every single one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOF0XLBhfbo

Bonin is and always will be crap.

[rjj tszyu]

Yes, but David Haye's punch output has never been the greatest...it has nothing to do with the way Haye fought vs Valuev.

Who needs to throw too many when you land near enough every single one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOF0XLBhfbo

Bonin is and always will be crap.

I know honestly. But my point is since the Thompson fight Haye has not been very wasteful with his shots as you saw at weekend against Valuev. Why throw needless punches at arms when you can work on timing and get head blows and body shots in effectively.