Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
rjjtszyu fine, OH David Haye is just sooooo amazing the way he never stops talking shit and the way he can put away lackluster heavyweights oh please give me more of that ....Tomaz Bonin is not a world beater, he's nothing special so why is a "one round destruction" of him impressive Wladimir knocked Ray Austin the funk out with 1 hand, but the Haye fans seem to overlook that, all they say is "Wlad could end his fights sooner than he does"....and they say it, yet they aren't impressed by that, when was the last time David Haye broke a top heavyweight's will

AdamGB, Haye is never going to be mistaken for a pressure fighter...and when he does press the action he hasn't learned (that we know of) how to pace himself, it might be something he shows improvement in with Ruiz.

Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
Lyle, your logic isn't too hot.
Yes Solis took Barrett out quicker than Haye did. So Solis is more powerful?
Well, Solis couldn't stop Julius Long, something that Audley did in 2 rounds. So is Audley more powerful than Solis?
By your logic he is.
#1 I said nothing of the sort

#2 ElTerribleMorales posted that because he was poking fun of the David Haye fanboys who thought "Haye beat Monte Barrett faster than Wladimir did so Haye must be better"....and I agree people did go overboard with that.
I rewatched both Haye vs Barret and Solis vs Barret today.

Haye and Monte basically fought as equals, taking it in turns to throw shots at each other and both took turns in pressing and then backing off, Haye won because he hits harder, and probably faster too.

Solis just took charge of the fight from the first bell. There was no exchanges or balance attack vs defence between two combatants. He just came out and bullied Barrett, marching into his face and smashing him around the ring. Barrett was never given a chance to get into that fight.

Solis is in the same mould as Kirkland and Angulo imo, just a big tank of a man who relentless comes forward and breaks fighters down.

Haye isn't that kind of guy at all. He's not strong on the inside, he doesn't have that ring generalship and aggression. He stands off and tries to box his opponent with punches, sometimes coming forward and throwing big shots, other times backing off and he gets hit.

I just can't see him making any impression on guys like Wlad, Vitali or Solis. I think they just bully him as much as outbox him.

Even guys like Povetkin and Chambers I find it hard to see how he wins. Povetkin works every minute of every round whereas Haye takes rounds off, he postures and stops throwing for long periods. He'd just be outworked.

A fight with Chambers would be interesting. I think boxing wise Chambers schools him, but Chambers himself can get a bit gunshy at times and his workrate can drop. He's not a hitter either. I think that fight could be a 50/50 matchup although obviously as a hater I'd side with Chambers.

Arreola vs Haye is a great matchup, not sure how that one goes.