Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
No, Cazares is a better win than Quintana or Phillips, WTF I'd take it over a win over an old hasn't fought in 8 years Winky and really there's not that much difference between Cazares and Margarito.

We've already discussed this, does it really need to go on? I'm not as impressed as you are simply by moving up in weight end of story. Its about who you beat and sorry I just can't go too crazy about who Paul has beat. Neither really with Calderon but I like his resume better slightly.

LOL were talking about one place. I don't even feel that strongly about it, not nearly as strongly as you feel about discrediting any little fighter. A win over a guy like Mayol isn't a bad win no matter how hard you try to make it, Mayol was beaten in a great fight against a titlist in Eagle Kyowa who was a good fighter and was knocked out by Solis, another titlist and he had Solis hurt in that fight, he's not a bum.

He's still a guy who twice lost in title challenges though. That's like escaping with a draw and then in a forced rematch scraping a SD win over Pauli Mallignaggi, hardly a glowing commendation for a p4p star.

Cazares is no better than Phillips, he just draw with some 11-1 guy. I guess you think he's one of those great 11-1 or 13-3 guys that seem to populate these tiny weight classes often upsetting the champions or coming close like Concepcion against Donaire, and that goat herder who beat Mijares?

It's funny how the higher divisions don't have these 11-1 and 13-3 guys constantly fighting in world title fights though? Some might see it as the main weights having improved competition and and a part timer with a 70 percent win record wouldn't be good enough to even challenge for a world title let alone win one but I guess it could be a sign that everone below 110 lbs is just gifted beyond belief and therefore nobody is an easy fight.....