PAC Biting more than he can chew?

[levi#1BoxingFan]

I actually think Mayweather will KO him. When Cotto knew he had lost last night and fought off the backfoot he had some success and that is not his style. It is on the other hand Mayweathers and Floyd tags people for fun from that position, especially when they come forward like a whirlwind as Pac does.

I honestly think that this will make Mayweather look really good (he is really good mind) and I think that what he did to Marquez will be nothing compared to what he does to Pac.

So yes he is biting off more than he can chew with this one for me, but I still can't wait to see it and I think it may even beat ODLH-PBF for PPV's. We'll see though!

How does anyone respond to complete nonsense? Mayweather KO Pacquiao? Your living in a total fantasy land! Your one of those few that would say Larry Merchant would KO pacquiao! "Larry's just got so much experience, I think Merchant gets rid of Pac in the later rounds!" The fact is that you never gave Pacquiao respect before and you won't ever no matter what he accompishes! Tell me, whens the last time Manny was knocked out, or knocked down for that matter? Mayweather is good, but you act like he's a knockout artist? Not trying to make waves but you must have been drunk or just thinking out your butt on this one dude!

[Tysonbruno]

If he fights Mayweather it has to be at 147lbs and a 50/50 purse split and just get it on none of this 145lbs shit or i deserve 60/40 just get it on for the sport for the fans.

Dude, i think you just want pacquiao to lose. You're intimidated by a small guy beating up big guys. Why be a crybaby demanding 147? What's a 2 lb difference to whine about? Can't muster a guy who climbed from 106?

For one thing, Floyd is just going to use his dancing skills. Roach is already saying it now. Floyd's ego won't let anyone tarnish his zero record, he'll dance the night away when he gets in trouble. Perhaps do a new version of Cotto's bicycle backpedal dance steps.

Remember, marquez was the smaller man. But big 'ol Floyd can't dispose the little guy from Mexico to do a decision. Pac was the smaller guy who keeps "biting more than he can chew", and yet he ended Cotto by a demolition.

And besides, only pacman can make opponent's wives/girlfriends cry.

He has fought at Welterweight twice now he shouldn't be looking for an edge as long as Mayweather weighs 147lbs or less it shouldn't matter

[:::PSL:::]

"PAC Biting more than he can chew?" 'Heard that many times before, and it's kinda getting old.

Pac KOed Hoya, Hatton, and now Cotto. Mayweather is not that special.

[rjj tszyu]

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is an interesting fight for me. Mayweather might school Pacquiao if they fight but you can't really count Pacquiao out since this guy is very unpredictable and doing the unthinkable in his last few fights.

Jose Luis Castillo who fought Mayweather twice and sparred with Pacquiao said that Pacquiao is faster and stronger than Mayweather.

Castillo was very good against Mayweather no doubt, but that isn't the man who sparred with Pac! Castillo is shot and has been since his brawls with Corrales. And he has been employed by Pac so he is never going to say Pac has no chance with Mayweather is he?

Also even if he is faster than Floyd, he is not as good a boxer and that will be the telling factor should they meet (i really hope they do). Can't wait to hear what PBF has to say about the fight!

Pacquiao win fights mainly due to his superior speed and if he's faster than Mayweather then it's already a plus for him. I think Pacquiao is also stronger. Mayweather has the edge in boxing skills and natural talent.

Dela Hoya said that Pacquiao has the quickest set of hands among the boxers he has fought. Hatton said that Pacquiao is the hardest puncher he has fought so far.

Pacquiao has faster hands than SRR but I don't think he'd beat him either! I'm not even that sure he is faster than Floyd, but it's close and i'll give him that. As for Hatton's hardest punching opponent?? I doubt it, Tszyu hit very very hard but Hatton had a lot better chin in those days. IMO Hatton lost a lot when Mayweather KO'd him.

"PAC Biting more than he can chew?" 'Heard that many times before, and it's kinda getting old.

Pac KOed Hoya, Hatton, and now Cotto. Mayweather is not that special.

Mayweather is not that special?? ?? WTF?? Did you see the demolition job he did on Marquez who caused Pac a shit load of problems? Mayweather is up there with the likes of Leonard, Robinson and Jones Jnr and IMO although great Pac isn't quite on that level. Yes he has had some very good wins recently since moving up to the higher weights but everyone of those opponents have had question marks over them. Oscar was ageing and forced to drain to a weight he hadn't been down to for a long time, Hatton had not long since been KO'd by Floyd and Cotto hasn't looked as good as he once did since the Margarito fight.

[rjj tszyu]

I actually think Mayweather will KO him. When Cotto knew he had lost last night and fought off the backfoot he had some success and that is not his style. It is on the other hand Mayweathers and Floyd tags people for fun from that position, especially when they come forward like a whirlwind as Pac does.

I honestly think that this will make Mayweather look really good (he is really good mind) and I think that what he did to Marquez will be nothing compared to what he does to Pac.

So yes he is biting off more than he can chew with this one for me, but I still can't wait to see it and I think it may even beat ODLH-PBF for PPV's. We'll see though!

How does anyone respond to complete nonsense? Mayweather KO Pacquiao? Your living in a total fantasy land! Your one of those few that would say Larry Merchant would KO pacquiao! "Larry's just got so much experience, I think Merchant gets rid of Pac in the later rounds!" The fact is that you never gave Pacquiao respect before and you won't ever no matter what he accompishes! Tell me, whens the last time Manny was knocked out, or knocked down for that matter? Mayweather is good, but you act like he's a knockout artist? Not trying to make waves but you must have been drunk or just thinking out your butt on this one dude!

Right listen here now. I've always given Pac respect, always. I didn't think he would beat Oscar but I was wrong and he did. I thought the Hatton fight was hard one to call and I slightly leaned for Hatton and got it wrong. I said all the way upto this fight that I thought it was difficult to call as both are great fighters but i even put money on a Pac points win and was 2 minutes from being right.

But Pac doesn't react well to classy counter punchers (see the Marquez fights if you don't believe me) and Floyd is the classiest and best counter puncher in the world bar none. So to me that says Floyd is going to land on Pac reguarly and when Pac starts getting tagged thats when he gets Macho and thats when Mayweather will pick him apart. Mayweather isn't a HUGE puncher no but he can still dig and Pac hasn't been hit for a duration of time by anyone that good or that big. Cotto has been the most successfull as far as this goes but after the 4th or 5th he never landed another telling blow. We'll see anyway as far as this fight goes but i'll have a name change bet or rep bet with anyone who wants one with me taking Mayweather over Pac obviously!

[kingfrnk]

"PAC Biting more than he can chew?" 'Heard that many times before, and it's kinda getting old.

Pac KOed Hoya, Hatton, and now Cotto. Mayweather is not that special.

floyd is way better than those 3 for sure. i pick pac to beat floyd right now but to say he aint special is kinda stupid.

[Tysonbruno]

Pac is a great fighter course he is nobody can doubt that but i will say this Mayweather beat a bigger stronger Oscar De La Hoya who was coming off a good win vs Mayorga and was WBC 154lb champ and ranked number 1 in the world Pac beat a weight drained version who weighed inside the welterweight division for 1st time since 2001 he made Oscar retire on his stool after 8 rounds but what would Mayweather have done with this Oscar who could basically be hit at will. Mayweather beat Hatton up for 10 rounds then knocked him out lets not forget Floyd didn't even take Hatton serious he went on dancing with the stars Hatton was basically done after this fight look at the Lazcano fight. Don't get me wrong what Pac did to these 2 fighters was great im not denying that and then theirs Cotto now i thought Cotto would win this was a great win for Pac but was he done after the defeat against the Master of Plaster Margarito we don't know. The main fact is lets just get this fight on but if Pac starts all this it has to be at 145 or 143lbs or he want 60/40 split then he must not want the fight. When interviewed after the fight he never mentioned Mayweather and when interviewed by Kenny when asked about Mayweather he skated around it the sport needs this fight in the words of Mills Lane LETS GET IT ON!!

[dcR-Reckless]

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Mayweather is not that special?? ?? WTF?? Did you see the demolition job he did on Marquez who caused Pac a shit load of problems? Mayweather is up there with the likes of Leonard, Robinson and Jones Jnr and IMO although great Pac isn't quite on that level. Yes he has had some very good wins recently since moving up to the higher weights but everyone of those opponents have had question marks over them. Oscar was ageing and forced to drain to a weight he hadn't been down to for a long time, Hatton had not long since been KO'd by Floyd and Cotto hasn't looked as good as he once did since the Margarito fight.

You smoking some good shiet.

[0james0]

2010 has 2 potential mega fights, Manny vs PBF and a Klitchsco vs Haye.

I'm just excited to see what could be potential super fights, talked about for years to come

[Rantcatrat]

If he fights Mayweather it has to be at 147lbs and a 50/50 purse split and just get it on none of this 145lbs shit or i deserve 60/40 just get it on for the sport for the fans.

Mayweather signed up to fight Marquez at 145. If Floyd was willing to fight Marquez at 145, why not Pacquiao? I don't see why it matters if the weight is in that range. It would only be Manny's second fight at welterweight and not in a row either. Unlike Mayweather who fought Hatton (a career junior welterweight) at 147, Pac fought him at 140. ODLH was his first fight at welterweight. Don't forget too that less than two years ago, Manny was fighting at 130. All I'm saying is I don't think it matters at all if the fight with Floyd is at 145.

You seem caught up on the weight issue. Are you also really bitter at Paul Williams for forcing Sergio Martinez to come up to 160 rather than at Sergio's natural weight of 154 just for the weight advantage?

Pac is a great fighter course he is nobody can doubt that but i will say this Mayweather beat a bigger stronger Oscar De La Hoya who was coming off a good win vs Mayorga and was WBC 154lb champ and ranked number 1 in the world Pac beat a weight drained version who weighed inside the welterweight division for 1st time since 2001 he made Oscar retire on his stool after 8 rounds but what would Mayweather have done with this Oscar who could basically be hit at will. Mayweather beat Hatton up for 10 rounds then knocked him out lets not forget Floyd didn't even take Hatton serious he went on dancing with the stars Hatton was basically done after this fight look at the Lazcano fight. Don't get me wrong what Pac did to these 2 fighters was great im not denying that and then theirs Cotto now i thought Cotto would win this was a great win for Pac but was he done after the defeat against the Master of Plaster Margarito we don't know. The main fact is lets just get this fight on but if Pac starts all this it has to be at 145 or 143lbs or he want 60/40 split then he must not want the fight. When interviewed after the fight he never mentioned Mayweather and when interviewed by Kenny when asked about Mayweather he skated around it the sport needs this fight in the words of Mills Lane LETS GET IT ON!!

Mayweather should beat Pacquiao.

However, Manny's wins over Hatton and Cotto are better than anything Mayweather has done in a while.

Mayweather fought Hatton at 147, not at Hatton's natural weight class of 140. A big-time advantage for Mayweather. Pacquiao fought him in a weight class in which Hatton had never lost, and DESTROYED him. It looked like Hatton didn't belong in the same ring with Pacquiao. Mayweather's beating of Hatton versus Manny's isn't a contest. Hatton won rounds against Mayweather at Mayweather's weight class and Manny demolished Hatton at Hatton's weight class.

And Cotto just beat a tough top ten welterweight in Clottey after the Margarito fight. Cotto was still a tough, tough competitor coming into this one. I, for one, predicted Cotto would win. The Cotto that showed up last night is by far better than any welterweight Mayweather has ever faced (Gatti, Baldomir, Hatton at 147 etc.).

[Rantcatrat]

Realistically, where would Manny place among the all-time-greats if Manny beat Floyd?

[0james0]

Realistically, where would Manny place among the all-time-greats if Manny beat Floyd?

Without doubt he would be up there with the very best of them.

To beat a fighter who has gone that long and never lost would confirm what many are already speculating.

Would still prob need another super fight to confirm it 100%, Mosley or similar, or even another Marquez fight.

[BigLuke]

I actually think Mayweather will KO him. When Cotto knew he had lost last night and fought off the backfoot he had some success and that is not his style. It is on the other hand Mayweathers and Floyd tags people for fun from that position, especially when they come forward like a whirlwind as Pac does.

I honestly think that this will make Mayweather look really good (he is really good mind) and I think that what he did to Marquez will be nothing compared to what he does to Pac.

So yes he is biting off more than he can chew with this one for me, but I still can't wait to see it and I think it may even beat ODLH-PBF for PPV's. We'll see though!

How does anyone respond to complete nonsense? Mayweather KO Pacquiao? Your living in a total fantasy land! Your one of those few that would say Larry Merchant would KO pacquiao! "Larry's just got so much experience, I think Merchant gets rid of Pac in the later rounds!" The fact is that you never gave Pacquiao respect before and you won't ever no matter what he accompishes! Tell me, whens the last time Manny was knocked out, or knocked down for that matter? Mayweather is good, but you act like he's a knockout artist? Not trying to make waves but you must have been drunk or just thinking out your butt on this one dude!

Right listen here now. I've always given Pac respect, always. I didn't think he would beat Oscar but I was wrong and he did. I thought the Hatton fight was hard one to call and I slightly leaned for Hatton and got it wrong. I said all the way upto this fight that I thought it was difficult to call as both are great fighters but i even put money on a Pac points win and was 2 minutes from being right.

But Pac doesn't react well to classy counter punchers (see the Marquez fights if you don't believe me) and Floyd is the classiest and best counter puncher in the world bar none. So to me that says Floyd is going to land on Pac reguarly and when Pac starts getting tagged thats when he gets Macho and thats when Mayweather will pick him apart. Mayweather isn't a HUGE puncher no but he can still dig and Pac hasn't been hit for a duration of time by anyone that good or that big. Cotto has been the most successfull as far as this goes but after the 4th or 5th he never landed another telling blow. We'll see anyway as far as this fight goes but i'll have a name change bet or rep bet with anyone who wants one with me taking Mayweather over Pac obviously!

What you fail to realize is, is that this is not the same pac that fought Marquez. Roach has made him a much more dangerous and skilled fighter since he fought marquez. If you want talk about opponents than Pac seems to be dominating common oppenents in much more convincing fashion than Mayweather(DLH,Hatton) so lets not even go there. Mayweather rarely throws combinations and has quite a habit of jabbing and retreating his way to victory. This wont be enough to stop manny, who will be relentless. He will stalk mayweather, and he will be the 1 on Mayweather's record.

[BigLuke]

2010 has 2 potential mega fights, Manny vs PBF and a Klitchsco vs Haye.

I'm just excited to see what could be potential super fights, talked about for years to come

Thats quite a stretch to say that Klitchsco vs Haye is a mega fight...

[0james0]

2010 has 2 potential mega fights, Manny vs PBF and a Klitchsco vs Haye.

I'm just excited to see what could be potential super fights, talked about for years to come

Thats quite a stretch to say that Klitchsco vs Haye is a mega fight...

It is in Europe, where most the heavyweight attention is coming from.

People want to see the Klitscho's dethroned. Why do you think Haye got such a unanimous points win in that fight when it was very close to call. People are bored of the same people, with their boring manner and boring style.

Haye vs Klitchsco is being talked about as a 90,000 sell out crowd at Wembley, makes it a super fight for me (should that happen)