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    Default Re: PAC Biting more than he can chew?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Wouldn't it be crazy if Pacquiao fought and beat Foreman at 154 and won a belt in an 8th weight class? I doubt Pacquiao could beat Martinez/Williams/Dzinzurik/Spinks at 154, but he could beat Foreman and Foreman now has a belt. Just for historical reasons even though obviously the Mayweather fight is much bigger as is aMosley fight etc.

    To Foreman's credit, he solidly beat Santos last night, which somewhat surprised me and it was a better fight than Chavez Jr's by far.
    It wouldn't be WORLD titles at 8 weights though.

    Also someone said that Mayweather's performances against ODLH and Hatton weren't as impressive as Pacs in a reply to my earlier post. Well no I admit that but Mayweather wasn't fighting a weight drained De La Hoya who was well and truely over the hill and had just looked shite against Steve fucking Forbes, no he had just looked great against Mayorga and Mayweather went upto 154lbs and beat De La Hoya in his comfort zone. Now I don't expect Pac to do that and I give him credit for what he did to Oscar but it is ignorant to overlook all the facts.

    As for Hatton, Floyd fought him when he was unbeaten and had not been knocked out. He set the trend there by KOing him and Hatton looked crap against Lazcano but against feather fisted Malignaggi he looked good but he always would. Also Hatton totally underestimated Pac and just run out with his chin out and got it handed to him. Again I don't want to take anything away from Pac but lets take all the facts into consideration before speaking please!

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    Default Re: PAC Biting more than he can chew?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Wouldn't it be crazy if Pacquiao fought and beat Foreman at 154 and won a belt in an 8th weight class? I doubt Pacquiao could beat Martinez/Williams/Dzinzurik/Spinks at 154, but he could beat Foreman and Foreman now has a belt. Just for historical reasons even though obviously the Mayweather fight is much bigger as is aMosley fight etc.

    To Foreman's credit, he solidly beat Santos last night, which somewhat surprised me and it was a better fight than Chavez Jr's by far.
    It wouldn't be WORLD titles at 8 weights though.

    Also someone said that Mayweather's performances against ODLH and Hatton weren't as impressive as Pacs in a reply to my earlier post. Well no I admit that but Mayweather wasn't fighting a weight drained De La Hoya who was well and truely over the hill and had just looked shite against Steve fucking Forbes, no he had just looked great against Mayorga and Mayweather went upto 154lbs and beat De La Hoya in his comfort zone. Now I don't expect Pac to do that and I give him credit for what he did to Oscar but it is ignorant to overlook all the facts.

    As for Hatton, Floyd fought him when he was unbeaten and had not been knocked out. He set the trend there by KOing him and Hatton looked crap against Lazcano but against feather fisted Malignaggi he looked good but he always would. Also Hatton totally underestimated Pac and just run out with his chin out and got it handed to him. Again I don't want to take anything away from Pac but lets take all the facts into consideration before speaking please!
    A few months ago I tore into Pacman's accomplishments for fun just to rile people up. We can do this with Mayweather.

    -Delahoya: 34 years old past his prime and was inactive
    -Hatton: Was fighting above his best weight class and Joe Cortez
    -Baldomir: Wasnt worthy of the 147 crown
    -Gatti: a 33 year old past his prime club fighter
    -Marquez: a 36 year old past his prime fighter fighting 3 weight classes above his best fighting weight.

    You see how easy it is to tear down a fighter's accomplishments? And I can say those are facts also.

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    Default Re: PAC Biting more than he can chew?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Wouldn't it be crazy if Pacquiao fought and beat Foreman at 154 and won a belt in an 8th weight class? I doubt Pacquiao could beat Martinez/Williams/Dzinzurik/Spinks at 154, but he could beat Foreman and Foreman now has a belt. Just for historical reasons even though obviously the Mayweather fight is much bigger as is aMosley fight etc.

    To Foreman's credit, he solidly beat Santos last night, which somewhat surprised me and it was a better fight than Chavez Jr's by far.
    It wouldn't be WORLD titles at 8 weights though.

    Also someone said that Mayweather's performances against ODLH and Hatton weren't as impressive as Pacs in a reply to my earlier post. Well no I admit that but Mayweather wasn't fighting a weight drained De La Hoya who was well and truely over the hill and had just looked shite against Steve fucking Forbes, no he had just looked great against Mayorga and Mayweather went upto 154lbs and beat De La Hoya in his comfort zone. Now I don't expect Pac to do that and I give him credit for what he did to Oscar but it is ignorant to overlook all the facts.

    As for Hatton, Floyd fought him when he was unbeaten and had not been knocked out. He set the trend there by KOing him and Hatton looked crap against Lazcano but against feather fisted Malignaggi he looked good but he always would. Also Hatton totally underestimated Pac and just run out with his chin out and got it handed to him. Again I don't want to take anything away from Pac but lets take all the facts into consideration before speaking please!
    A few months ago I tore into Pacman's accomplishments for fun just to rile people up. We can do this with Mayweather.

    -Delahoya: 34 years old past his prime and was inactive
    -Hatton: Was fighting above his best weight class and Joe Cortez
    -Baldomir: Wasnt worthy of the 147 crown
    -Gatti: a 33 year old past his prime club fighter
    -Marquez: a 36 year old past his prime fighter fighting 3 weight classes above his best fighting weight.

    You see how easy it is to tear down a fighter's accomplishments? And I can say those are facts also.
    In no way is that a fact. Baldomir was the linear champion at 147, ergo he was worthy of the crown since he earned it by beathing the former champion. Was he a mediocre titlist? Absolutely, but he was also "worthy" of the position because he earned it the same way everyone else has.

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    Default Re: PAC Biting more than he can chew?

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post

    It wouldn't be WORLD titles at 8 weights though.

    Also someone said that Mayweather's performances against ODLH and Hatton weren't as impressive as Pacs in a reply to my earlier post. Well no I admit that but Mayweather wasn't fighting a weight drained De La Hoya who was well and truely over the hill and had just looked shite against Steve fucking Forbes, no he had just looked great against Mayorga and Mayweather went upto 154lbs and beat De La Hoya in his comfort zone. Now I don't expect Pac to do that and I give him credit for what he did to Oscar but it is ignorant to overlook all the facts.

    As for Hatton, Floyd fought him when he was unbeaten and had not been knocked out. He set the trend there by KOing him and Hatton looked crap against Lazcano but against feather fisted Malignaggi he looked good but he always would. Also Hatton totally underestimated Pac and just run out with his chin out and got it handed to him. Again I don't want to take anything away from Pac but lets take all the facts into consideration before speaking please!
    A few months ago I tore into Pacman's accomplishments for fun just to rile people up. We can do this with Mayweather.

    -Delahoya: 34 years old past his prime and was inactive
    -Hatton: Was fighting above his best weight class and Joe Cortez
    -Baldomir: Wasnt worthy of the 147 crown
    -Gatti: a 33 year old past his prime club fighter
    -Marquez: a 36 year old past his prime fighter fighting 3 weight classes above his best fighting weight.

    You see how easy it is to tear down a fighter's accomplishments? And I can say those are facts also.
    In no way is that a fact. Baldomir was the linear champion at 147, ergo he was worthy of the crown since he earned it by beathing the former champion. Was he a mediocre titlist? Absolutely, but he was also "worthy" of the position because he earned it the same way everyone else has.
    Yes he was the lineal champ, but as you stated he was a mediocre titlist. And some people would interpret that as not worthy.

    Anyway my point being was that anyone can tear down a fighters' accomplishment. That was the point, we'll both disagree on Baldomir.

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    Default Re: PAC Biting more than he can chew?

    Understandable i think pac will get mad and lose rounds

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    Default Re: PAC Biting more than he can chew?

    This is nonsense as a Mayweather fan I think Floyd wins but Pac has the best chance to beat the man. it's the only reasonable fight!!!

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