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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12




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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Cotto was landing punches, I still thought he had a chance until it was clear he was overwhelmed because of that. Also, I think you could clearly see Manny was bothered by Cotto's punches which is more then you can say for De La Hoya, Diaz and Hatton. I also don't think his defense was as good in this one as it was made to look in that one. Didn't matter, Manny came to fight fire with fire and that's how he won. However, I think now that he has faced that type of clean punching, there can be no questions about Pac's chin or toughness.

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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Cotto was landing punches, I still thought he had a chance until it was clear he was overwhelmed because of that. Also, I think you could clearly see Manny was bothered by Cotto's punches which is more then you can say for De La Hoya, Diaz and Hatton. I also don't think his defense was as good in this one as it was made to look in that one. Didn't matter, Manny came to fight fire with fire and that's how he won. However, I think now that he has faced that type of clean punching, there can be no questions about Pac's chin or toughness.
    It doesn't matter how tough Manny is though, Marquez handled Floyd's power just fine, but he couldn't counter or catch Floyd with his punches. We have seen Pacquiao go into a shell when Marquez hit him to the body and kept Manny's rhythym off beat. Mayweather will do that a lot better, and Manny will suffer a lot more from having to face a guy the same speed as him than Mayweather will.

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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12




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    I am responding to both of you, because Mayweather didn't rough Hatton up at all, he was getting mauled on the ropes, but he was too good for Hatton to hit him very often and eventually he adapted(something Manny can't do), and was able to pick Hatton apart as he began to tire.

    Also why hasn't anyone seen Mayweather fight a southpaw? He DOESN'T run against southpaws -.-

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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12




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    I am responding to both of you, because Mayweather didn't rough Hatton up at all, he was getting mauled on the ropes, but he was too good for Hatton to hit him very often and eventually he adapted(something Manny can't do), and was able to pick Hatton apart as he began to tire.

    Also why hasn't anyone seen Mayweather fight a southpaw? He DOESN'T run against southpaws -.-
    1. Isn't is possible Mayweather may fight Manny differently than he has fought other southpaws? What are the advantages to Floyd using this style as opposed to his usual style against a southpaw or Manny in particular? Admittedly, I need to rewach the Corley and Judah fights.
    2. Why wouldn't Mayweather use his size and reach advantage to counter and keep out of reach as has been successful for him in the past?
    Taeth, since you're the expert on Mayweather, can you tell me when the last time Mayweather was hit flush and who had the most success connecting against Mayweather?
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 11-17-2009 at 04:01 PM.

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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post

    Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12




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    I am responding to both of you, because Mayweather didn't rough Hatton up at all, he was getting mauled on the ropes, but he was too good for Hatton to hit him very often and eventually he adapted(something Manny can't do), and was able to pick Hatton apart as he began to tire.

    Also why hasn't anyone seen Mayweather fight a southpaw? He DOESN'T run against southpaws -.-
    1. Isn't is possible Mayweather may fight Manny differently than he has fought other southpaws? What are the advantages to Floyd using this style as opposed to his usual style against a southpaw or Manny in particular? Admittedly, I need to rewach the Corley and Judah fights.
    2. Why wouldn't Mayweather use his size and reach advantage to counter and keep out of reach as has been successful for him in the past?
    Taeth, since you're the expert on Mayweather, can you tell me when the last time Mayweather was hit flush and who had the most success connecting against Mayweather?
    floyd gets hit flush in everyfight he just has a good chin believe it or not....But the most I've ever seen him hurt was the left that Chop landed on him but he recovered extremely fast because he can take a shot.
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