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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    I am a Pac fan but I don't want to fool myself out knowing what I see. Outside of a lucky shot I can not figure out how Pac can beat PBF. Hate him or not, PBF is not going to be a good style for Pac. I know Roach is a genius trainer but in 2 fights with Marquez he still never figured him out. Imagine trying to figure out the toughest puzzle in all of boxing on your first shot.
    Exactly. Marquez is the second best counter puncher in the world and because of that he gave Pac hell, and who is he second to? You guessed it, Floyd Mayweather, difference is Mayweather is twice as fast, a lot bigger, 10 times more elusive and finally and most importantly the best boxer in the world bar none, including Pac.

    I honestly think Mayweather will potshot Pac into defeat and I even see the accumulation of shots being too much for Pac and the fight being stopped late on!

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    I am a Pac fan but I don't want to fool myself out knowing what I see. Outside of a lucky shot I can not figure out how Pac can beat PBF. Hate him or not, PBF is not going to be a good style for Pac. I know Roach is a genius trainer but in 2 fights with Marquez he still never figured him out. Imagine trying to figure out the toughest puzzle in all of boxing on your first shot.
    Exactly. Marquez is the second best counter puncher in the world and because of that he gave Pac hell, and who is he second to? You guessed it, Floyd Mayweather, difference is Mayweather is twice as fast, a lot bigger, 10 times more elusive and finally and most importantly the best boxer in the world bar none, including Pac.

    I honestly think Mayweather will potshot Pac into defeat and I even see the accumulation of shots being too much for Pac and the fight being stopped late on!
    Marquez is the best counterpouncher in LW below no doubt as Roach says if the fight will held at 140 it show the difference.

    Look what happens to Marquez at 140 and above? SLOW even didnt hurt Mayweather

    Fight Style make fights Floyd has a problems Lefties likes with Corley or Judah, In Judah in the 1st few rounds got nailed Floyd in a flash knockdown but it was counted off , but Judah was not continue his will at the second half.

    Hatton was really lost his sheild in 1st attempt in Welters in Collazo
    Agree he was the same when was pitted to Mayweather at 147 but in reality Collazo was the one exposed it not Mayweather

    Lastly Hatton was undefeated at 140 remember and Pacman nail him coming at Lightweight division

    Floyd is far the technical boxer ovious but to me he has gone since the last with Coralles fight.Nothing good after that.

    Come on dont count Baldomir as best welters on that time he has 11 losses already why he should fight Cotto who was WBO 140 champion on that time or even 147 or even fight Margarito, he was offered $8M by that time. Also PWilliams was the champion on that time.

    Can you give me the best 140 - 147 that Floyd beat that technically good? i cant count on Gatti or Mitchell or even Baldo? Tho Judah was not the same fighter when beaten by points by Baldomir. ODLH is for money and Hatton is over his limit of 147 he was best at 140.

    We cant compare really because Mayweather has no real fight at 140-147 comparison with Pacman but basing on Judah with Cotto, FMJ with Hatton and FLoyd with ODLH...its really a 50-50 for both of them. For me I guess a more chance really to win for Pacman.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Wow you guys haven't watched Floyd at all, he always backs up southpaws with both hands up high. I thought Manny should have used a lot more movement against Cotto, but he wanted to prove a point, but regardless Pacquiao can be backed up relatively easily because he moves in and out, he isn't a guy who just comes forward, but if you can get him consistently moving back thats where he isn't as good. The fight against Hatton doesn't count because obviously a heavy hitter with speed would pick Hatton apart because he's so open when he comes in.

    The problem is when you watch the Marquez fight Manny wasn't the offensively killer he was in later fights, and thats because Marquez didn't let him. Marquez was able to control the ring and even was more success leading in with the cross than Pacquiao was. Now put Mayweather in Marquez's shoes, a guy who blatantly showed he's bigger, faster, and stronger and better than Marquez, and Manny won't be able to get started.

    The best way to beat a Ferrari in a race is to never let the key go into the ignition, and Mayweather wouldn't let Manny find his rhythm. Floyd will come forwad behind a high guard, and he will land right hand after right hand, and Manny will occasionally flurry, but Mayweather will either stand there and block the majority of them or move back quickly and stay out of Manny's range, then he will go right back to walking Manny down.

    If Mayweather does choose to move and box which he doesn't do against southpaws, Manny is wide open when he moves in, and Mayweather will land counter right hands all night long, and Manny won't be able to even fight his range, but thats not how Mayweather will fight Manny.
    Floyd had problem with Zab. I hope you consider watching again that fight.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'd like to see Mayweather try to crowd Pacquiao. Mayweather doesn't have the punching power of Cotto. Mayweather would do nothing but run. He won't be interested in making a fight of it. He'll only want to box from the outside.

    If they have the same speed they will both get hit. Pacquiao's speed shows up in the later rounds once his opponent starts slowing down. Pacquiao got hit against Cotto more because the fool was testing Cotto's power.
    I agree with Taeth that Floyd will win and if the betting lines open up even remotely close, I'm putting my money on Mayweather. No doubt about it. However, like Taeth, I too am a big fan of Pacquiao, but Mayweather is a different sort of welterweight than Cotto because he fights defensive. In order to win, Manny must get under Mayweather's reach and connect. I like Manny and I sort of see the outcome of this fight as a foregone conclusion with Floyd winning on the cards. I would rather see Manny fight Shane.

    Why would Mayweather crowd or push Pacquiao around and turn the fight into an offensive fight? He doesn't generally do that and I don't see why he would change his tune for Pacquiao when Pacquiao is a smaller fighter. Against a bigger fighter Mayweather may have to change his style up but not against Pacquiao. I see Mayweather fighting a defensive fight where he uses his reach and footwork to successfully pot shot Manny from the outside all night and win on the cards. Maybe I need to rewatch the Zab fight?

    The only way I see Manny having a chance is if his speed can neutralize Mayweather's defense. I just don't see Manny as able to get in close enough to touch Mayweather.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 11-17-2009 at 10:55 AM.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    First of all I am as big of a Pacquiao supporter as anyone on here, people said I was a nuthugger, but now that Pacquiao has emphatically proven himself an ATG, at least top 15 ever. After watching both Mayweather-marquez and Pacquiao-Cotto live, I know that Manny won't beat Floyd.

    1st. Manny showed something I didn't think he had, the ability to absorbs Cotto's power and stand there and trade, but that doesn't help him whatsoever against Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't need to hurt you to dominate you.

    2nd: Mayweather comes forward against southpaws, and Manny needs space to get off his punches, but also he isn't nearly as effective going backwards. Mayweather will keep Manny on his heels and constantly land that right cross which Manny is wide open for all night long.

    3rd: Speed. Now they are both the same speed, but Manny relies on being faster way more than Mayweather, thats why the faster the opponent's hands and/or feet are the harder of a time Manny has with them.

    4th: Holes. I think Cotto did a good job early of showing that if you are brave enough Manny can be counter effectively because he leaves himself so wide open after he throws punches, I think Marquez demonstrated this far more accutely in their two fights. I think Judah gave Cotto less problems than Manny because Cotto can be hit, but you need to throw punches to hit somebody, and Judah doesn't throw enough punches. I think Judah in terms of landing solidly would give Mayweather more problems than Pacquiao because against Mayweather its about landing that tight left cross as a counter puncher that does the trick, and Manny doesn't have that punch. Manny whole style and stance doesn't allow for him to catch somebody coming in with the left cross effectively. He either flurries back or counters with the right hook which Floyd would easily dodge.

    Conclusion: Mayweather will carefully back Pacquiao up, take a couple of rounds to get used to his speed and what he does(just like against Judah), then Floyd will pick Manny's porous defense apart. If guys like Marquez and Cotto can left cleanly on Manny then Mayweather will do it much easier than either of them, and nobody lands punches in bunches consistently against Floyd who also has a great chin if some punches get through.
    If you think Floyd can come forward on Manny and beat him you are out of your mind. Thats asking for brutal punnishment which im sure manny will gladly dish out. If Floyd has a prayer its to stick to his jab and run routine which wont work either. If Floyd comes to Mayweather its gonna be a short night for the money maker, and hes gonna be helped off the canvas not knowing what happened. I seriously for floyds sake hope he doesnt follow your strategy. Wait...scratch that. Floyd please follow that strategy.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Anyone calling themselves a Pac Fan and picking PBF will be sorely mistaken that they didn't back there so called favorite fighter...

    Very disappointing to hear from the Pac supporters that the "reality" result is a Mayweather easy decision and/or possible KO...

    I will just look forward to all the egg on everyones face... Unless you're trying to create the win/win situation by picking against your own team. By that i mean if Pac loses you can say "i knew it would happen" and if pac proves you wrong then it was great to be wrong. <---WEAK!!!

    It does not take blind faith to see that Pacquiao has all the tools to take out this self proclaimed GOAT... The day will come when Pac rids boxing of this Narcissistic Ass! (it will happen)
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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Anyone calling themselves a Pac Fan and picking PBF will be sorely mistaken that they didn't back there so called favorite fighter...

    Very disappointing to hear from the Pac supporters that the "reality" result is a Mayweather easy decision and/or possible KO...

    I will just look forward to all the egg on everyones face... Unless you're trying to create the win/win situation by picking against your own team. By that i mean if Pac loses you can say "i knew it would happen" and if pac proves you wrong then it was great to be wrong. <---WEAK!!!

    It does not take blind faith to see that Pacquiao has all the tools to take out this self proclaimed GOAT... The day will come when Pac rids boxing of this Narcissistic Ass! (it will happen)

    What the hell you on about??

    It's quite refreshing to see so called Pac fans saying Floyd will win, not saying he will win im still undecided but Floyd is the favourite imo.

    Say my favourite fighter rite now is Matthew Hatton because im a huge fan do you think I would back him to beat Pac?

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Anyone calling themselves a Pac Fan and picking PBF will be sorely mistaken that they didn't back there so called favorite fighter...

    Very disappointing to hear from the Pac supporters that the "reality" result is a Mayweather easy decision and/or possible KO...

    I will just look forward to all the egg on everyones face... Unless you're trying to create the win/win situation by picking against your own team. By that i mean if Pac loses you can say "i knew it would happen" and if pac proves you wrong then it was great to be wrong. <---WEAK!!!

    It does not take blind faith to see that Pacquiao has all the tools to take out this self proclaimed GOAT... The day will come when Pac rids boxing of this Narcissistic Ass! (it will happen)

    What the hell you on about??

    It's quite refreshing to see so called Pac fans saying Floyd will win, not saying he will win im still undecided but Floyd is the favourite imo.

    Say my favourite fighter rite now is Matthew Hatton because im a huge fan do you think I would back him to beat Pac?
    If that was the case I'd lose respect for you

    Anyway on the subject, I do think Mayweather will win, I saw enough in the fight for how he can beat him & I think HE knows he can beat him.

    However, even as a Floyd fan, I'd never say Pacquiao couldn't beat him & I think anyone saying only one of the two can win isn't thinking straight. Like it or not, they are BOTH atgs, between them they've beat up to a dozen possible hall of famers, so for me it's as close a 50-50 fight as we've got in a super-fight in recent times because they are both great.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Anyone calling themselves a Pac Fan and picking PBF will be sorely mistaken that they didn't back there so called favorite fighter...

    Very disappointing to hear from the Pac supporters that the "reality" result is a Mayweather easy decision and/or possible KO...

    I will just look forward to all the egg on everyones face... Unless you're trying to create the win/win situation by picking against your own team. By that i mean if Pac loses you can say "i knew it would happen" and if pac proves you wrong then it was great to be wrong. <---WEAK!!!

    It does not take blind faith to see that Pacquiao has all the tools to take out this self proclaimed GOAT... The day will come when Pac rids boxing of this Narcissistic Ass! (it will happen)

    What the hell you on about??

    It's quite refreshing to see so called Pac fans saying Floyd will win, not saying he will win im still undecided but Floyd is the favourite imo.

    Say my favourite fighter rite now is Matthew Hatton because im a huge fan do you think I would back him to beat Pac?
    There's nothing refreshing about it... I'm cool with the 50/50 comment, and i'm cool with "it won't be easy at all to defeat a fighter like PBF"... But to say Manny "CAN'T" beat Floyd is ludicris... Thats the part i have a problem with especially for a "Pac Fan"..

    Also, for you to even compare the likeliness of Matthew Hatton beating pac is equavalent to Pac Beating Floyd was wayyyyy off base.... i think i puked in my mouth a little...
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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    THESE ARE TRUE FACTS NOT OPINIONS

    pacman cudnt fight cotto on the outside everytime he threw a jab cotto would explode with fast powerful combos you cant fight cotto on the outside you more or less run into a brick wall hes too big too powerful. this is the reason why manny fought on the inside toe to toe with the bomber from peoterico. ON THE OUTSIDE MANNY PUNCHES WOULD NEVER HURT COTTO MANNY KNEW THIS IN AN INSTANCE AND DECIDEED HE NEED TO PLANT HIS FOOT DOWN AND SWING WITH POWER (TOE TO TOE)

    knowing this you may say pacman isnt a good boxer he will lose agsint flloyd but you are wrong.

    FLLOYD NEVER FOUGHT COTTO FOR A REASON flloyd always says its about the money. cotto had no problems giving manny the bigger share of the ppv buys. cotto had no problems with the catch weight cotto had no problems acepting the fight. if flloyd ever thought he could beat cotto he would have surely faced cotto himself. but he never so this proves to flloyd himself that HE COULD NEVER FIGHT COTTO ON THE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.

    THE FACT IS THAT FLLOYD DIDNT FIGHT COTTO MAGRITO OR MOSELY BEACUSE HE KNOWS HIS JABS WILL JUST BOUNCE OFF AND THEY WUD JUST KEEP ON COMMING PRESSUREING HIM ( U SEE THIS IN THE DELA HOYA FIGHT) IF IT WAS COTTO FIGHTING MAYWHEATHER THAT NIGHT COTTO WOULD HAVE CRUSHED HIM MANNY DID MAYWHEATER A GOOD FAVOUR TAKING COTTO OUT OF THE EQUATION

    MANNY HAS FOUGHT JABBERS ALL HIS LIFE MORALES BERRERA DELAHOYA HE KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT JAB EVERYTIME SOMEONE JABS HIM IN THE FACE HE IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO COUNTER AND A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. IN THE COTTO FIGHT COTTO WAS LANDING THE JAB ON ROUND 1 MANNY WAS MEASUREING IT. IT LED COTTO INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY U EVEN HEAR HIS TRAINER TELLING HIM TO JAB. IF COTTO IN ROUND 1 WAS LANDING JABS WHY DIDNT HE LAND JABS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT. THE COTTO JABS WERE GETTING COTTO INTO TROUBLE (WATCH THE FIGHT) MANNY WAS LANDING HARD RIGHT HOOKS EVERYTIME COTTO THREW A JAB

    IF FLLOYD IS LOOKING TO STAY ON THE OUTSIDE AND JAB ALL NIGHT HE WILL GET CAUGHT MANNY ALWAYS FIND A WAY INSIDE AND FLLOYDS JAB ISNT AS HARD AS COTTO LEAD LEFT HAND JAB TRUST ME FLLOYDS JAB WILL BOUNCE OFF MANNY LIKE NOTHING AND MANNY WILL KEEP ON COMMING FORWARD PRESSUREING HIM AND PUNCHING HIM WITH HIS POWER SOMTHING DELAHOYA NEVER HAD

    THESE ARE ALL FACTS

    I HAVENT BEEN WATCHING BOXING LONG BUT I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT

    THIS IS WUT WILL HAPEN IF FLOYD FIGHTS MANNY FLOYD. FLOYDS EXTRA ARM REACH WILL JAB MANNY EARLY ON IT LOOKS SO BAD FOR MANNY BUT IN REALITY MANNY FEELS NOHTING. FLLOYD WILL TEST MANNY BRINGING HIS RIGHT HAND INTO THE FIGHT. FAST QUICK RIGHT HANDS BUT MANNY AVOIDS THEM. FLLOYD PLAYS IT SAFE BOXING AND THROWING JABS BUT MANNY MANAGES SLIP AND COUNTER CATCHES FLOYD FLUSH THE CROWD ROAR FLOYDS SMILES BUT KEEPS ON BOXING MANNY PRESSURES MORE MOVING ON HIS TOES SWINGING WITH BOTH HANDS AND PULLING BACK CATCHES FLLOYD WITH A FEW SHOTS THE CROWD ROAR FLOYD SENSES MANY IS WINNING THE ROUNDS FLOYD CHANGES HIS MODE TO MORE AGRESSIVE FIGHTING WITH MANY IN THE CENTER OF THE RINNG FLOYDS HITS MANNY WITH MORE JABS BUT MANNY DOESNT GIVE A FUCK. THEY TRADE IN THE CENTER MANNY IS STARTING TO CATCH FLLOYD FLUSH BACKS HIM IN THE CORNER AND UNLOADS FURIOUS HANDS THE FIGHT IS OVER MANNY TKO'S FLLOYD

    THIS IS FACTS

    WHAT I REALLY THINK WILL HAPEN IS FLLOYD WILL NEVER FIGHT MANNY JUST LIKE HE NEVER FOUGHT COTTO MAGARIOTO MOSLEY AND PAUL WILLIAMS THE MONEY IS THERE THERE ARE NO EXUCSES IF THIS FIGHT DOESNT HAPPEN ITS COS FLLOYD NEVER INTENDED IT TO HAPPEN. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT PACMANS FIGHTS ALWAYS THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT FLLOYD PACMAN DID WHAT FLLOYD NEVER DID AND FOUGHT A BIG PUNCHING WELTER WEIGHT CORRALES WAS GIVING HIM TROUBLE AND WALKING HIM DOWN WHAT DO U THINK COTTO WUD DO TO MAYWHEATER
    EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY IS THE FACE OF BOXING EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY DESERVES THE BIGGER SHARE OF THE FIGHT IF IT EVER HAPPENS. BUT MANNY IS JUST AS COURAGES IN THE RING AS OUTSIDE IT HE IS WILLING TO TAKE A 50 50% AGSAINT FLLOYD I AM CONFIDENT AND SO IS MANNY CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD BEAT HIM THAT HE WUD TAKE A 50 50
    YOU CAN NOT SAY THE SAME ABOUT FLLOYD HE WILL NOT FIGHT PACMAN

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Anyone calling themselves a Pac Fan and picking PBF will be sorely mistaken that they didn't back there so called favorite fighter...

    Very disappointing to hear from the Pac supporters that the "reality" result is a Mayweather easy decision and/or possible KO...

    I will just look forward to all the egg on everyones face... Unless you're trying to create the win/win situation by picking against your own team. By that i mean if Pac loses you can say "i knew it would happen" and if pac proves you wrong then it was great to be wrong. <---WEAK!!!

    It does not take blind faith to see that Pacquiao has all the tools to take out this self proclaimed GOAT... The day will come when Pac rids boxing of this Narcissistic Ass! (it will happen)

    What the hell you on about??

    It's quite refreshing to see so called Pac fans saying Floyd will win, not saying he will win im still undecided but Floyd is the favourite imo.

    Say my favourite fighter rite now is Matthew Hatton because im a huge fan do you think I would back him to beat Pac?
    There's nothing refreshing about it... I'm cool with the 50/50 comment, and i'm cool with "it won't be easy at all to defeat a fighter like PBF"... But to say Manny "CAN'T" beat Floyd is ludicris... Thats the part i have a problem with especially for a "Pac Fan"..

    Also, for you to even compare the likeliness of Matthew Hatton beating pac is equavalent to Pac Beating Floyd was wayyyyy off base.... i think i puked in my mouth a little...
    Why is it ludicrous to think Pac cant beat Floyd??

    Floyd is unbeaton fighter who is a great fighter, so cos you got ur head so far up Manny's arse it's ludicrous for anyone to think Pac cant beat probably the best fighter technically we have seen for the last fifthteen years??

    I have my favourite fighters but that doesnt cloud my judgement when my fighter is possibly got his hands full im not going to say my man will win whoever he faces just because I get a bit of blood in the end of my penis everytime his name is mentioned!!!

    The odds have Floyd a clear favourite will he win we dont know but with the guys skills there is every possibility he makes Pac look silly we will have to see.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Of course Mayweather can beat Manny and vice versa.

    Mayweather

    1. Great Defense
    2. Great Offense
    3. Very Good Power
    4. Great Speed
    5. Great Stamina
    6. Good punch output
    7. Great Counterpuncher
    8. Very Good Combinations
    9. Backs up weaker fighters or fighters that have expended their energy (Judah). Check his Baldomir and Oscar fight to see what happens against stronger opponents.
    10. Great Chin (it rarely been tested but it's held up great)
    11. Genius Boxer

    Pacquiao

    1. Very Good Defense (I'm talking about the constantly improving Pac, please don't bring up Marquez. He's has improved vastly since those fights)
    2. Great Offense
    3. Great Power
    4. Great Speed
    5. Great Stamina
    6. Great Punch output
    7. Great Puncher with both hands
    8. Great Combinations
    9. Backs up weaker and "stronger" opponents
    10. Great chin
    11. Genius corner and brilliant execution by Pac.


    It's pretty damn even from how I see it but I have to go with Pacquiao by unanimous decision.

    Mayweather moves very effectively against stronger opponents and he could outpoint Pac. Pacquiao is the stronger man in this one and I believe his superior combinations will be the difference. I expect/hope the fight to be much more competitive than Cotto. It's not a bandwagon thing either. The only times I didn't pick Pac was against supposedly stronger opponents (DLH and Cotto). He's proven me wrong twice, and against Mayweather I feel the size difference is way less of an issue then Cotto and DLH.

    Good luck to both fighters. Both are living legends in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    who gives a rats ass if manny cant beat floyd. all i care is that floyd grow some balls to actually fight either manny or shane. when you're in a fight you win some or you lose some. its how the fight was fought. if mayweather wins and we all know he danced all night will you be satisfied? would you think your 60 bucks was worth it? we know manny is outclassed by floyd but then again we all could speculate until the fight is over. we all thought cotto was stronger than manny. some of us thought cotto was gonna ragdoll manny and some of us were dead wrong. stop with all these questions who wins what who beats who.. bullsh*t.. lets just hope the fight is made!
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    Quote Originally Posted by larryelephant View Post
    THESE ARE TRUE FACTS NOT OPINIONS

    pacman cudnt fight cotto on the outside everytime he threw a jab cotto would explode with fast powerful combos you cant fight cotto on the outside you more or less run into a brick wall hes too big too powerful. this is the reason why manny fought on the inside toe to toe with the bomber from peoterico. ON THE OUTSIDE MANNY PUNCHES WOULD NEVER HURT COTTO MANNY KNEW THIS IN AN INSTANCE AND DECIDEED HE NEED TO PLANT HIS FOOT DOWN AND SWING WITH POWER (TOE TO TOE)

    knowing this you may say pacman isnt a good boxer he will lose agsint flloyd but you are wrong.

    FLLOYD NEVER FOUGHT COTTO FOR A REASON flloyd always says its about the money. cotto had no problems giving manny the bigger share of the ppv buys. cotto had no problems with the catch weight cotto had no problems acepting the fight. if flloyd ever thought he could beat cotto he would have surely faced cotto himself. but he never so this proves to flloyd himself that HE COULD NEVER FIGHT COTTO ON THE OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.

    THE FACT IS THAT FLLOYD DIDNT FIGHT COTTO MAGRITO OR MOSELY BEACUSE HE KNOWS HIS JABS WILL JUST BOUNCE OFF AND THEY WUD JUST KEEP ON COMMING PRESSUREING HIM ( U SEE THIS IN THE DELA HOYA FIGHT) IF IT WAS COTTO FIGHTING MAYWHEATHER THAT NIGHT COTTO WOULD HAVE CRUSHED HIM MANNY DID MAYWHEATER A GOOD FAVOUR TAKING COTTO OUT OF THE EQUATION

    MANNY HAS FOUGHT JABBERS ALL HIS LIFE MORALES BERRERA DELAHOYA HE KNOWS HOW TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT JAB EVERYTIME SOMEONE JABS HIM IN THE FACE HE IS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO COUNTER AND A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. IN THE COTTO FIGHT COTTO WAS LANDING THE JAB ON ROUND 1 MANNY WAS MEASUREING IT. IT LED COTTO INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY U EVEN HEAR HIS TRAINER TELLING HIM TO JAB. IF COTTO IN ROUND 1 WAS LANDING JABS WHY DIDNT HE LAND JABS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT. THE COTTO JABS WERE GETTING COTTO INTO TROUBLE (WATCH THE FIGHT) MANNY WAS LANDING HARD RIGHT HOOKS EVERYTIME COTTO THREW A JAB

    IF FLLOYD IS LOOKING TO STAY ON THE OUTSIDE AND JAB ALL NIGHT HE WILL GET CAUGHT MANNY ALWAYS FIND A WAY INSIDE AND FLLOYDS JAB ISNT AS HARD AS COTTO LEAD LEFT HAND JAB TRUST ME FLLOYDS JAB WILL BOUNCE OFF MANNY LIKE NOTHING AND MANNY WILL KEEP ON COMMING FORWARD PRESSUREING HIM AND PUNCHING HIM WITH HIS POWER SOMTHING DELAHOYA NEVER HAD

    THESE ARE ALL FACTS

    I HAVENT BEEN WATCHING BOXING LONG BUT I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT

    THIS IS WUT WILL HAPEN IF FLOYD FIGHTS MANNY FLOYD. FLOYDS EXTRA ARM REACH WILL JAB MANNY EARLY ON IT LOOKS SO BAD FOR MANNY BUT IN REALITY MANNY FEELS NOHTING. FLLOYD WILL TEST MANNY BRINGING HIS RIGHT HAND INTO THE FIGHT. FAST QUICK RIGHT HANDS BUT MANNY AVOIDS THEM. FLLOYD PLAYS IT SAFE BOXING AND THROWING JABS BUT MANNY MANAGES SLIP AND COUNTER CATCHES FLOYD FLUSH THE CROWD ROAR FLOYDS SMILES BUT KEEPS ON BOXING MANNY PRESSURES MORE MOVING ON HIS TOES SWINGING WITH BOTH HANDS AND PULLING BACK CATCHES FLLOYD WITH A FEW SHOTS THE CROWD ROAR FLOYD SENSES MANY IS WINNING THE ROUNDS FLOYD CHANGES HIS MODE TO MORE AGRESSIVE FIGHTING WITH MANY IN THE CENTER OF THE RINNG FLOYDS HITS MANNY WITH MORE JABS BUT MANNY DOESNT GIVE A FUCK. THEY TRADE IN THE CENTER MANNY IS STARTING TO CATCH FLLOYD FLUSH BACKS HIM IN THE CORNER AND UNLOADS FURIOUS HANDS THE FIGHT IS OVER MANNY TKO'S FLLOYD

    THIS IS FACTS

    WHAT I REALLY THINK WILL HAPEN IS FLLOYD WILL NEVER FIGHT MANNY JUST LIKE HE NEVER FOUGHT COTTO MAGARIOTO MOSLEY AND PAUL WILLIAMS THE MONEY IS THERE THERE ARE NO EXUCSES IF THIS FIGHT DOESNT HAPPEN ITS COS FLLOYD NEVER INTENDED IT TO HAPPEN. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT PACMANS FIGHTS ALWAYS THEY NEVER TALK ABOUT FLLOYD PACMAN DID WHAT FLLOYD NEVER DID AND FOUGHT A BIG PUNCHING WELTER WEIGHT CORRALES WAS GIVING HIM TROUBLE AND WALKING HIM DOWN WHAT DO U THINK COTTO WUD DO TO MAYWHEATER
    EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY IS THE FACE OF BOXING EVERYBODY KNOWS MANNY DESERVES THE BIGGER SHARE OF THE FIGHT IF IT EVER HAPPENS. BUT MANNY IS JUST AS COURAGES IN THE RING AS OUTSIDE IT HE IS WILLING TO TAKE A 50 50% AGSAINT FLLOYD I AM CONFIDENT AND SO IS MANNY CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD BEAT HIM THAT HE WUD TAKE A 50 50
    YOU CAN NOT SAY THE SAME ABOUT FLLOYD HE WILL NOT FIGHT PACMAN


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    Default Re: Why Manny can't beat Floyd

    Manny's only chance is a KO but Floyd won't walk onto anything like Cotto did. I think Floyd wins and won't KO him to leave the chance of a rematch.

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