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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Only right if you ask me

    The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

    Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

    1.Pacquiao
    2.Mayweather
    3.Mosley
    Pac beat a weight drained Oscar who wasn't even in the Welterweight top 10 and Floyd beat a big 154lbs WBC champ Oscar who was number 1 at the time in that division. Yes Pac beat Cotto who beat Mosley but Mosley destroyed Margarito who had Destroyed Cotto and Cintron and Pacquiao's fight was at 145lbs not at the 147lbs Welterweight limit.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Only right if you ask me

    The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

    Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

    1.Pacquiao
    2.Mayweather
    3.Mosley
    Pac beat a weight drained Oscar who wasn't even in the Welterweight top 10 and Floyd beat a big 154lbs WBC champ Oscar who was number 1 at the time in that division. Yes Pac beat Cotto who beat Mosley but Mosley destroyed Margarito who had Destroyed Cotto and Cintron and Pacquiao's fight was at 145lbs not at the 147lbs Welterweight limit.

    Oscars prime weight was always welter, the quartey, whittaker and carr fights proved that years ago surely?

    And didnt oscar come in at like 149 when he fought floyd? hardly a massive light middle was he
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Only right if you ask me

    The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

    Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

    1.Pacquiao
    2.Mayweather
    3.Mosley
    Pac beat a weight drained Oscar who wasn't even in the Welterweight top 10 and Floyd beat a big 154lbs WBC champ Oscar who was number 1 at the time in that division. Yes Pac beat Cotto who beat Mosley but Mosley destroyed Margarito who had Destroyed Cotto and Cintron and Pacquiao's fight was at 145lbs not at the 147lbs Welterweight limit.

    Oscars prime weight was always welter, the quartey, whittaker and carr fights proved that years ago surely?

    And didnt oscar come in at like 149 when he fought floyd? hardly a massive light middle was he
    No ODLH weighed in at the limit of 154 and rehydrated to well over 160 for the PBF fight. When ODLH fought PAC he weighed in at 145 and with the help of an IV rehydrated to 147. Prime at welter you say? ODLH hadn't fought at welter in over 8 years when he stepped into the ring against PAC.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Pac beat a weight drained Oscar who wasn't even in the Welterweight top 10 and Floyd beat a big 154lbs WBC champ Oscar who was number 1 at the time in that division. Yes Pac beat Cotto who beat Mosley but Mosley destroyed Margarito who had Destroyed Cotto and Cintron and Pacquiao's fight was at 145lbs not at the 147lbs Welterweight limit.

    Oscars prime weight was always welter, the quartey, whittaker and carr fights proved that years ago surely?

    And didnt oscar come in at like 149 when he fought floyd? hardly a massive light middle was he
    No ODLH weighed in at the limit of 154 and rehydrated to well over 160 for the PBF fight. When ODLH fought PAC he weighed in at 145 and with the help of an IV rehydrated to 147. Prime at welter you say? ODLH hadn't fought at welter in over 8 years when he stepped into the ring against PAC.

    And lets not forget manny pac hadnt even been in at 140 when he flew up through the weights to fight oscar.

    floyd jumped up 7pounds to fight a guy of similar stature. Manny Pac gained 17pounds in just over 9months to fight a guy who had made his millions at said weight!
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    Oscars prime weight was always welter, the quartey, whittaker and carr fights proved that years ago surely?

    And didnt oscar come in at like 149 when he fought floyd? hardly a massive light middle was he
    No ODLH weighed in at the limit of 154 and rehydrated to well over 160 for the PBF fight. When ODLH fought PAC he weighed in at 145 and with the help of an IV rehydrated to 147. Prime at welter you say? ODLH hadn't fought at welter in over 8 years when he stepped into the ring against PAC.

    And lets not forget manny pac hadnt even been in at 140 when he flew up through the weights to fight oscar.

    floyd jumped up 7pounds to fight a guy of similar stature. Manny Pac gained 17pounds in just over 9months to fight a guy who had made his millions at said weight!
    I place very little value on PAC's win over ODLH, because ODLH was a dehydrated broken man coming into that fight.

    I give PAC huge credit for his wins over Cotto and Hatton though.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    No ODLH weighed in at the limit of 154 and rehydrated to well over 160 for the PBF fight. When ODLH fought PAC he weighed in at 145 and with the help of an IV rehydrated to 147. Prime at welter you say? ODLH hadn't fought at welter in over 8 years when he stepped into the ring against PAC.

    And lets not forget manny pac hadnt even been in at 140 when he flew up through the weights to fight oscar.

    floyd jumped up 7pounds to fight a guy of similar stature. Manny Pac gained 17pounds in just over 9months to fight a guy who had made his millions at said weight!
    I place very little value on PAC's win over ODLH, because ODLH was a dehydrated broken man coming into that fight.

    I give PAC huge credit for his wins over Cotto and Hatton though.
    I agree

    Just find this theory that pacs blowout of oscar in 8 wasnt as impressive as floyds 115-113 decision??

    You can only beat whats put in front of you after all
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

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    And lets not forget manny pac hadnt even been in at 140 when he flew up through the weights to fight oscar.

    floyd jumped up 7pounds to fight a guy of similar stature. Manny Pac gained 17pounds in just over 9months to fight a guy who had made his millions at said weight!
    I place very little value on PAC's win over ODLH, because ODLH was a dehydrated broken man coming into that fight.

    I give PAC huge credit for his wins over Cotto and Hatton though.
    I agree

    Just find this theory that pacs blowout of oscar in 8 wasnt as impressive as floyds 115-113 decision??

    You can only beat whats put in front of you after all
    I think Floyd won easier than the score say to be honest but i give Pac full credit for his win against Cotto

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Pacquiao should number 2 at WW.

    Mosley beat the man at 147 in Margarito who beat Cotto before Pacquiao did.

    Mosley should be number 1.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    This isn't a p4p list, it's a welterweight list, which means what you achieve at welterweight decides where you place. Floyd has only fought Marquez, Baldomir, and Gotti at welterweight (right?)? Cotto is a better win than all of those by a sizable margin.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    This isn't a p4p list, it's a welterweight list, which means what you achieve at welterweight decides where you place. Floyd has only fought Marquez, Baldomir, and Gotti at welterweight (right?)? Cotto is a better win than all of those by a sizable margin.
    This is also the Ring's Welterweight list and Baldomir for all his faults was their champ when Mayweather beat him and you left off Judah. Cotto was not.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Shane is the best Welter at the moment. Floyd retired and Cotto lost to Marg, who Shane beat, so is the current holder.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    This isn't a p4p list, it's a welterweight list, which means what you achieve at welterweight decides where you place. Floyd has only fought Marquez, Baldomir, and Gotti at welterweight (right?)? Cotto is a better win than all of those by a sizable margin.
    This is also the Ring's Welterweight list and Baldomir for all his faults was their champ when Mayweather beat him and you left off Judah. Cotto was not.
    Floyd retired though.

    Cotto was then regarded as the man at 147, Margarito beat him and was then regarded as the man then Mosley beat him.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Number 1 in Welterweights in The Ring Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Only right if you ask me

    The 2 fights he has had at the weight have been nothing short of remarkable, cotto beat mosley, pac beat cotto

    Floyd took a close decision to beat ODLH, pac battered him in 8rounds!

    1.Pacquiao
    2.Mayweather
    3.Mosley
    Pac beat a weight drained Oscar who wasn't even in the Welterweight top 10 and Floyd beat a big 154lbs WBC champ Oscar who was number 1 at the time in that division. Yes Pac beat Cotto who beat Mosley but Mosley destroyed Margarito who had Destroyed Cotto and Cintron and Pacquiao's fight was at 145lbs not at the 147lbs Welterweight limit.

    Oscars prime weight was always welter, the quartey, whittaker and carr fights proved that years ago surely?

    And didnt oscar come in at like 149 when he fought floyd? hardly a massive light middle was he
    No Oscar weighed 154lbs for Floyd Floyd weighed 150lbs Oscar had not fought at Welterweight since march 2001 against Gatti

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