How is it possible to win a 147 title belt below the welterweight limit?

[Pancho V]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

Cotto won that belt against Michael Jennings @ 146

Cotto - 146 Jennings - 146.5
WBO Welterweight title

[ross]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. ..

The amount of times iv seen this stupid question!!!

Anyone fighting between 140lbs and 147lbs is a fuucking welterweight!!

Thats how!!

Cotto could defend his title at 141lbs if he wanted

[Pugilistic]

To be fair,

147 is the limit for a welterweight fight which means anything between 141 and 147 is a legit welterweight fight.

People can't discredit Pacquiao for making Cotto come down two pounds being that Pacquiao is a very small welterweight and Cotto is a legit welter.

Cotto looked in great shape at 145 so no excuses.

[Kev]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

To my knowledge never in the history of boxing has a title not been on the line because a fighter came 2 lbs under the maximum limit.

Under the rules both could have weighed in at 141 lbs and it would have still been a legitimate welterweight fight.

The 147 limit is a MAXIMUM limit not a forced weight that both fighters must weigh.

[brucelee]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

First of all, you are a hater so this thread basically is an anti-pac thread.

Second, there's no provision that you can't win a title when you fight below 147. Besides, 145 was the weight they have agreed upon during weigh-in; definitely not the weight when they fought. Both of them were over 147 when they fought so how could this be not a 147 fight? You will see the logic if you'll remove your hate on Pac.

[jamiebhoy]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

First of all, you are a hater so this thread basically is an anti-pac thread.

Second, there's no provision that you can't win a title when you fight below 147. Besides, 145 was the weight they have agreed upon during weigh-in; definitely not the weight when they fought. Both of them were over 147 when they fought so how could this be not a 147 fight? You will see the logic if you'll remove your hate on Pac.

First point Bollox to the highlighted section.

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[brucelee]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

First of all, you are a hater so this thread basically is an anti-pac thread.

Second, there's no provision that you can't win a title when you fight below 147. Besides, 145 was the weight they have agreed upon during weigh-in; definitely not the weight when they fought. Both of them were over 147 when they fought so how could this be not a 147 fight? You will see the logic if you'll remove your hate on Pac.

First point Bollox to the highlighted section.

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding the first point, read purtyboy's posts and you will see what I mean.

[purtyboy]

First of all, you are a hater so this thread basically is an anti-pac thread.

Second, there's no provision that you can't win a title when you fight below 147. Besides, 145 was the weight they have agreed upon during weigh-in; definitely not the weight when they fought. Both of them were over 147 when they fought so how could this be not a 147 fight? You will see the logic if you'll remove your hate on Pac.

First point Bollox to the highlighted section.

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding the first point, read purtyboy's posts and you will see what I mean.

Well obviously anything that is or can be negative against Pac and the pac/nut hugers will call you a hater.

[Lance Uppercut]

I don't understand how "so-called" boxing cant understand weight limits.
There limits!!! They are maximum weights. A fighter weighting 95lbs can theoretically fight another fighter weighing 95lbs for EVERY single weight devision title.

YOu only have to be less then the maiximum weight per division to fight for the title.

[brucelee]

First point Bollox to the highlighted section.

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding the first point, read purtyboy's posts and you will see what I mean.

Well obviously anything that is or can be negative against Pac and the pac/nut hugers will call you a hater.

Yeah, I may be a fan of Manny but I will say negative things about him when I see his faults. It's clear that you're trying to undermine the belt Manny is currently holding. Why can't you for one moment try to stop on the hating and recognize that there is one great fighter among us.


Sorry but I can't consider yet your boy Mayweather as great because he hasn't really fought a great fight in the current weight he's in. IMO.

I know, Mayweather will be the most difficult fight Pac will have because of styles but that makes him a great fighter. He fights despite the risk. He fights despite the slim chance of success. That's why many of us here have become his fans. You may call me nuthugger because I have been his fan since day one here but Pac has proven already that I'm not wrong for hugging him.lol

If it would be possible though, stop undermining Pac's achievements. It makes you look like a hater of Pac and a hugger of PBF. I don't know which is worse.

[jamiebhoy]

First of all, you are a hater so this thread basically is an anti-pac thread.

Second, there's no provision that you can't win a title when you fight below 147. Besides, 145 was the weight they have agreed upon during weigh-in; definitely not the weight when they fought. Both of them were over 147 when they fought so how could this be not a 147 fight? You will see the logic if you'll remove your hate on Pac.

First point Bollox to the highlighted section.

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding the first point, read purtyboy's posts and you will see what I mean.

You refer to the thread being an anti pac thread then you refer me to one person in the thread , i don't hate Pac, so should i leave the thread as i may have changes it from anti pac. And your little symbol is very big of you thanks for that very adult of you.

My Bollox comment was in response to you saying a broad comment about the thread. my addition of a link was to help people not sute where the weight limits lie.

[Kel]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

First of all, you are a hater so this thread basically is an anti-pac thread.

Second, there's no provision that you can't win a title when you fight below 147. Besides, 145 was the weight they have agreed upon during weigh-in; definitely not the weight when they fought. Both of them were over 147 when they fought so how could this be not a 147 fight? You will see the logic if you'll remove your hate on Pac.

Really? During the weigh in they said "Hey how about 145 Cotto?"

[miron_lang]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

Oscar lost to Hopkins but their contract says Hopkins should make the 157lbs limit

Oscar - 155, Hopkins - 156 during the weigh in.


and you said how is it possible? well SRL won a 175lbs belt from a 175lbs title holder. while forcing that title holder to make the Super Middleweight limit of 168lbs!

[killersheep]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

Oscar lost to Hopkins but their contract says Hopkins should make the 157lbs limit

Oscar - 155, Hopkins - 156 during the weigh in.


and you said how is it possible? well SRL won a 175lbs belt from a 175lbs title holder. while forcing that title holder to make the Super Middleweight limit of 168lbs!

That Leonard multi-weight class fight was THE biggest BS set up in the history of boxing. How do you fight in two weight classes for the same fight? It's ridiculous.

[purtyboy]

Well first of all this is not an anti-pac thread. I feel Pac would of done the same at 147. I just don't see how he could have won the 147 title at 145.. Usually when a boxer comes 1 or 2 pounds under the limit the titles are not on the line. Which leads me to my question.. What are the rules, can you fight for the 147 title at 140 ? First of all catchweights suck but to be able to win titles at heavier weights without fighting at them is B/S... This opens up all possibilities...

Oscar lost to Hopkins but their contract says Hopkins should make the 157lbs limit

Oscar - 155, Hopkins - 156 during the weigh in.


and you said how is it possible? well SRL won a 175lbs belt from a 175lbs title holder. while forcing that title holder to make the Super Middleweight limit of 168lbs!

Well i get how it's possible but why is that rule allowed is what im saying.. i remember Hopkins but we all knew Oscar would lose.. the sugar ray LHW lmao thats crazy man totally unfair.. i had forgotten about that wow.. insane