How is it possible to win a 147 title belt below the welterweight limit?

[purtyboy]

First of all, you are a hater so this thread basically is an anti-pac thread.

Second, there's no provision that you can't win a title when you fight below 147. Besides, 145 was the weight they have agreed upon during weigh-in; definitely not the weight when they fought. Both of them were over 147 when they fought so how could this be not a 147 fight? You will see the logic if you'll remove your hate on Pac.

First point Bollox to the highlighted section.

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding the first point, read purtyboy's posts and you will see what I mean.

Well obviously anything that is or can be negative against Pac and the pac/nut hugers will call you a hater.

[Lance Uppercut]

I don't understand how "so-called" boxing cant understand weight limits.
There limits!!! They are maximum weights. A fighter weighting 95lbs can theoretically fight another fighter weighing 95lbs for EVERY single weight devision title.

YOu only have to be less then the maiximum weight per division to fight for the title.

[brucelee]

First point Bollox to the highlighted section.

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding the first point, read purtyboy's posts and you will see what I mean.

Well obviously anything that is or can be negative against Pac and the pac/nut hugers will call you a hater.

Yeah, I may be a fan of Manny but I will say negative things about him when I see his faults. It's clear that you're trying to undermine the belt Manny is currently holding. Why can't you for one moment try to stop on the hating and recognize that there is one great fighter among us.


Sorry but I can't consider yet your boy Mayweather as great because he hasn't really fought a great fight in the current weight he's in. IMO.

I know, Mayweather will be the most difficult fight Pac will have because of styles but that makes him a great fighter. He fights despite the risk. He fights despite the slim chance of success. That's why many of us here have become his fans. You may call me nuthugger because I have been his fan since day one here but Pac has proven already that I'm not wrong for hugging him.lol

If it would be possible though, stop undermining Pac's achievements. It makes you look like a hater of Pac and a hugger of PBF. I don't know which is worse.

[purtyboy]

Regarding the first point, read purtyboy's posts and you will see what I mean.

Well obviously anything that is or can be negative against Pac and the pac/nut hugers will call you a hater.

Yeah, I may be a fan of Manny but I will say negative things about him when I see his faults. It's clear that you're trying to undermine the belt Manny is currently holding. Why can't you for one moment try to stop on the hating and recognize that there is one great fighter among us.


Sorry but I can't consider yet your boy Mayweather as great because he hasn't really fought a great fight in the current weight he's in. IMO.

I know, Mayweather will be the most difficult fight Pac will have because of styles but that makes him a great fighter. He fights despite the risk. He fights despite the slim chance of success. That's why many of us here have become his fans. You may call me nuthugger because I have been his fan since day one here but Pac has proven already that I'm not wrong for hugging him.lol

If it would be possible though, stop undermining Pac's achievements. It makes you look like a hater of Pac and a hugger of PBF. I don't know which is worse.

lmfao ^... Im not undermining Pacquiaos achivements.. Pacquiao is a great fighter i have stated that before.. When Mayweather came in 2 pounds over weight on Marquez i ranted about it here, i also said how Mayweather called Mosley over and then blamed him for ruining his interview im not a hugger just a huge fan of his skill but i will speak out when he is wrong... this is a weight issue many people here agree with me that the pac should not dictate what weight his opponent should come in when the welter max limit is 147...

[blegit]

I am a healthy fan of Pac. But I know this is going to rile up the Pac fanatics against me. But lets be honest and actually not ignore the facts when it comes to Pac this time. This was just a ploy to make history by way of 7 division titles. This conformed to Pac just like one of his so called belts is actually the Ring Magazine belt. At featherweight, JMM was the world champion and they fought to a draw so JMM remained the champion. Pac was never a featherweight champion! It was JMM. But because the Ring Magazine, yeah a magazine champ, labeled Pac their champ this somehow counts as a divisional champ and sets it possible to make history. One of the 7 divisional belts of Pac's came by way of catchweight and one came by way of magazine. Like I said I am a Pac fan but I do not suppress the truth(and risk becoming a Pactard). But I have been involved with boxing since I was 5 thats why I keep defending it but the phoniness that comes with boxing is worse than any other sport.

[purtyboy]

I am a healthy fan of Pac. But I know this is going to rile up the Pac fanatics against me. But lets be honest and actually not ignore the facts when it comes to Pac this time. This was just a ploy to make history by way of 7 division titles. This conformed to Pac just like one of his so called belts is actually the Ring Magazine belt. At featherweight, JMM was the champion and they fought to a draw so JMM remained the champion. Pac was never a featherweight champion! It was JMM. But because the Ring Magazine, yeah a magazine champ, labeled Pac their champ this somehow counts as a divisional champ and sets it possible to make history. One of the 7 divisional belts of Pac's came by way of catchweight and one came by way of magazine. Like I said I am a Pac fan but I do not suppress the truth(and risk becoming a Pactard). But I have been involved with boxing since I was 5 thats why I keep defending it but the bullcrap that comes with boxing is worse than any other sport.

Finally a pac fan that is not a hugger... wow not many around here.. Great post man

[brucelee]

I am a healthy fan of Pac. But I know this is going to rile up the Pac fanatics against me. But lets be honest and actually not ignore the facts when it comes to Pac this time. This was just a ploy to make history by way of 7 division titles. This conformed to Pac just like one of his so called belts is actually the Ring Magazine belt. At featherweight, JMM was the champion and they fought to a draw so JMM remained the champion. Pac was never a featherweight champion! It was JMM. But because the Ring Magazine, yeah a magazine champ, labeled Pac their champ this somehow counts as a divisional champ and sets it possible to make history. One of the 7 divisional belts of Pac's came by way of catchweight and one came by way of magazine. Like I said I am a Pac fan but I do not suppress the truth(and risk becoming a Pactard). But I have been involved with boxing since I was 5 thats why I keep defending it but the bullcrap that comes with boxing is worse than any other sport.

Finally a pac fan that is not a hugger... wow not many around here.. Great post man

LOL. I don't remember blegit being a Pac fan here.

Take it from me. I'm the original pacfan here.

All pacfans are huggers and when they are proven correct they become boxing geniuses vice-versa for Pac haters.

[Gandalf]

I am a healthy fan of Pac. But I know this is going to rile up the Pac fanatics against me. But lets be honest and actually not ignore the facts when it comes to Pac this time. This was just a ploy to make history by way of 7 division titles. This conformed to Pac just like one of his so called belts is actually the Ring Magazine belt. At featherweight, JMM was the world champion and they fought to a draw so JMM remained the champion. Pac was never a featherweight champion! It was JMM. But because the Ring Magazine, yeah a magazine champ, labeled Pac their champ this somehow counts as a divisional champ and sets it possible to make history. One of the 7 divisional belts of Pac's came by way of catchweight and one came by way of magazine. Like I said I am a Pac fan but I do not suppress the truth(and risk becoming a Pactard). But I have been involved with boxing since I was 5 thats why I keep defending it but the bullcrap that comes with boxing is worse than any other sport.

Boxing is quite horrendous when you sit back and look at what goes on.

[miron_lang]

I am a healthy fan of Pac. But I know this is going to rile up the Pac fanatics against me. But lets be honest and actually not ignore the facts when it comes to Pac this time. This was just a ploy to make history by way of 7 division titles. This conformed to Pac just like one of his so called belts is actually the Ring Magazine belt. At featherweight, JMM was the world champion and they fought to a draw so JMM remained the champion. Pac was never a featherweight champion! It was JMM. But because the Ring Magazine, yeah a magazine champ, labeled Pac their champ this somehow counts as a divisional champ and sets it possible to make history. One of the 7 divisional belts of Pac's came by way of catchweight and one came by way of magazine. Like I said I am a Pac fan but I do not suppress the truth(and risk becoming a Pactard). But I have been involved with boxing since I was 5 thats why I keep defending it but the phoniness that comes with boxing is worse than any other sport.

LOL

that is FALSE. barrera was the CHAMPION.

WBC, WBO, WBA, IBF all of their champion were beaten by hamed in a particular period who then loses it to Barrera. Barrera also was able to beat Morales for the WBC version but dumps it immediately.

Barrera was recognized as the TRUE/Lineal/RING Featherweight Champion.

The fighter is the Featherweight Champion NOT the ALPHABET ORG. so when they part who ends up the champion? the fighter or the Aplhabet ORG?

Im sure this was posted millions of times already.

[blegit]

I am a healthy fan of Pac. But I know this is going to rile up the Pac fanatics against me. But lets be honest and actually not ignore the facts when it comes to Pac this time. This was just a ploy to make history by way of 7 division titles. This conformed to Pac just like one of his so called belts is actually the Ring Magazine belt. At featherweight, JMM was the world champion and they fought to a draw so JMM remained the champion. Pac was never a featherweight champion! It was JMM. But because the Ring Magazine, yeah a magazine champ, labeled Pac their champ this somehow counts as a divisional champ and sets it possible to make history. One of the 7 divisional belts of Pac's came by way of catchweight and one came by way of magazine. Like I said I am a Pac fan but I do not suppress the truth(and risk becoming a Pactard). But I have been involved with boxing since I was 5 thats why I keep defending it but the phoniness that comes with boxing is worse than any other sport.

LOL

that is FALSE. barrera was the CHAMPION.

WBC, WBO, WBA, IBF all of their champion were beaten by hamed in a particular period who then loses it to Barrera. Barrera also was able to beat Morales for the WBC version but dumps it immediately.

Barrera was recognized as the TRUE/Lineal/RING Featherweight Champion.

The fighter is the Featherweight Champion NOT the ALPHABET ORG. so when they part who ends up the champion? the fighter or the Aplhabet ORG?

Im sure this was posted millions of times already.

I know Barrera was considered the peoples champion but JMM had 2 belts. What belts did Pacquiao get at 126? Otherwise the champ is just a popular opinion.

[Fenster]

I am a healthy fan of Pac. But I know this is going to rile up the Pac fanatics against me. But lets be honest and actually not ignore the facts when it comes to Pac this time. This was just a ploy to make history by way of 7 division titles. This conformed to Pac just like one of his so called belts is actually the Ring Magazine belt. At featherweight, JMM was the world champion and they fought to a draw so JMM remained the champion. Pac was never a featherweight champion! It was JMM. But because the Ring Magazine, yeah a magazine champ, labeled Pac their champ this somehow counts as a divisional champ and sets it possible to make history. One of the 7 divisional belts of Pac's came by way of catchweight and one came by way of magazine. Like I said I am a Pac fan but I do not suppress the truth(and risk becoming a Pactard). But I have been involved with boxing since I was 5 thats why I keep defending it but the phoniness that comes with boxing is worse than any other sport.

LOL

that is FALSE. barrera was the CHAMPION.

WBC, WBO, WBA, IBF all of their champion were beaten by hamed in a particular period who then loses it to Barrera. Barrera also was able to beat Morales for the WBC version but dumps it immediately.

Barrera was recognized as the TRUE/Lineal/RING Featherweight Champion.

The fighter is the Featherweight Champion NOT the ALPHABET ORG. so when they part who ends up the champion? the fighter or the Aplhabet ORG?

Im sure this was posted millions of times already.

I know Barrera was considered the peoples champion but JMM had 2 belts. What belts did Pacquiao get at 126? Otherwise the champ is just a popular opinion.

Barrera was the lineal champ. THE man.

To further strengthen Miron Lang's explanation - you can trace the "man who beat the man" through Hamed to Wilfredo Vazquez. So there really is no doubt Pac was THE true featherweight champion after beating Barrera.

[Dr. Steelhammer]

The thread starter is not really bright.

141-147 is WW. 141 is the minimum, 147 is the max.