
Originally Posted by
Nameless
This is a very good read but I see a problem:
If you make things too complicated, it means that it'll involve so many things that one can lose the focus on the essential in the end. i am not saying what he says is wrong, there is a lot of interesting facts into the thing but if I would be Roach, I would make it a bit simpler than that.
I agree that somebody built like williams would be better designed for the task of beating Floyd but I think that throwing a lot of shots and having the power to intimidate him are 2 keys elements to beat Floyd as he tends to back up a bit in these moments (a bit like the first fight with castillo or some parts of the match against sharmba Mitchell). Pacman has the speed and timing to land some serious bombs, it's gonna be very tough but I think he has some of the required tools to make it or at least, to believe in it.
Floyd hardly backed up at all against Sharmba Mitchell, and Castillo didn't throw a lot of punches, at least not from the outside.
I guess there are two ways to beat Floyd, but one of them is to beat him on the scorecards which most of the fans wouldn't consider beating him at all, and thats just to throw a lot of punches and hope that judges score the fight for you due to aggression and output. Oscar almost succeeded in this.
I think there have a been a few fighters who have almost had the blueprint to beat Mayweather, if Oscar had truly elite speed, or if Mosley had a better outside game, or if Winky wasn't so stationary and one handed, even when he fought Mosley twice, I just think Floyd would be able to stay away from him and potshot him all night. I think it takes more than a style, but also great athlete to also beat Floyd convincingly. If they are orthodox they have to have a great jab, be bigger than him and throw a ton of combinations with lightning quickness. If they are southpaw then they have to have elite speed, be elusive and throw in bunches, preferably with a greater reach than Floyd.
I just think a guy like Whitaker would create a few more problems than Pacquiao for Floyd if he had a little more speed. I don't think Pernell was quite fast enough to land that lead left, and its so hard to work the jab even as good as his was against Floyd when its southpaw vs orthodox.
An interesting fight for me would be Berto vs Mayweather. I think Andre is faster than Floyd, he has better range than Mosley because he throws good straight punches, while Mosley mostly throws hooks and an awkward jab. However, I haven't seen Berto make mid fight adjustments when its comes to stopping opponents from landing on him, or against Forbes, he didn't change up the tempo at all, and he had a hard time landing because the only time he moved was when he was going to throw punches and Forbes read this quite easily. If Berto truly learned how to feint and stay defensively accountable while maintain a good punch output(I don't mean squaring up and throwing stupid haymakers), I think he could give Floyd a lot new problems he hasn't had to solve yet.
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