Floyd-Pacquiao advantages/disadvantages

[JonesJrMayweather]

Here's my breakdown of the advantages/disadvantages for each boxer:

.......................Size - Floyd
..............Skills/Style - Floyd
...................Weight - Floyd
....................Reach - Floyd
...........Height/Taller - Floyd
................Accuracy - Floyd

.......................Age - Pacquiao
....................Power - Pacquiao
................Workrate - Pacquiao
Quality of Opponents - Pacquiao
.......Ring Experience - Pacquiao
.....................Heart - Pacquiao
....... Recent activity - Pacquiao

....................Speed - EVEN
.......Ring Generalship - EVEN
..................Stamina - EVEN
.......................Chin - EVEN
.........Corner/Trainer - EVEN


Discuss...

The first two actually go to floyd as floyd has way more experience than PAC..Floyd had a very long amateur career. This why PAC is just now becoming a well rounded fighter.

And Floyd has beaten a wider variety of opponents meaning styles, where as Manny was protected from fighting slick boxers and still to this day hasn't fought a slick boxer.

HEART - I don't know how you measure this but I think its just a dumb way of trying to give manny an "advantage", Why doesn't floyd have heat? Because he's undefeated? Well it takes more heart than one gets credit for to constantly lace 'em up with the huge target on his back that floyd has.

And As far as Recent activity, this could very easily count against Manny as he himself just stated that he wants a vacation because the cotto fight was very tough, not to mention they've been riding him over the last two years. with 5 fights. Where as Floyd has been resting and came back with an easy tune up against a very good small man.

[knodaledge]

^I agree with the "Ring Experience". Mayweather was fighting for a title while Pacquiao wasnt even on the scene.

Mayweather also wins in the "Ring General" category, which is probably the main thing to consider. Mayweather always seems to control the pace of a fight. If he does so against Pacquiao, Pacquiao is in for a long night.

To me it boils down to this: Pacquiao wins by beating up his opponents. Mayweather wins by outclassing them. I have never ever seen Mayweather beaten up to the extent that Pacquiao needs to beat him up, but I have seen Pacquiao outboxed by lesser boxers.

There's a reason why Pacquiao's people have kept him away from slick boxers, and I think we're going to see why if this fight were to happen.

[fanjohn]

^I agree with the "Ring Experience". Mayweather was fighting for a title while Pacquiao was still green.

Mayweather also wins in the "Ring General" category, which is probably the main thing to consider. Mayweather always seems to control the pace of a fight. If he does so against Pacquiao, Pacquiao is in for a long night.

To me it boils down to this: Pacquiao wins by beating up his opponents. Mayweather wins by outclassing them. I have never ever seen Mayweather beaten up to the extent that Pacquiao needs to beat him up, but I have seen Pacquiao outboxed by lesser boxers.

There's a reason why Pacquiao's people have kept him away from slick boxers, and I think we're going to see why if this fight were to happen.

Two months after Floyd got his 1st title at 130, Pacquiao got his 1st title too and it's a lineal one at 112. Pacquiao beat the man that beat the man.

Regarding ring generalship, Pacquiao is also very good in controlling the pace of the fight. He can dictate the pace even against bigger men. He has them back pedaling at times.

Pacquiao been criticized that he didn't fought a slick boxer, that he didn't fought a "black" boxer. I'm sure Pacquiao is not afraid to face the mother of all slick, "black" boxers and that's Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[JonesJrMayweather]

^I agree with the "Ring Experience". Mayweather was fighting for a title while Pacquiao was still green.

Mayweather also wins in the "Ring General" category, which is probably the main thing to consider. Mayweather always seems to control the pace of a fight. If he does so against Pacquiao, Pacquiao is in for a long night.

To me it boils down to this: Pacquiao wins by beating up his opponents. Mayweather wins by outclassing them. I have never ever seen Mayweather beaten up to the extent that Pacquiao needs to beat him up, but I have seen Pacquiao outboxed by lesser boxers.

There's a reason why Pacquiao's people have kept him away from slick boxers, and I think we're going to see why if this fight were to happen.

Two months after Floyd got his 1st title at 130, Pacquiao got his 1st title too and it's a lineal one at 112. Pacquiao beat the man that beat the man.

Regarding ring generalship, Pacquiao is also very good in controlling the pace of the fight. He can dictate the pace even against bigger men. He has them back pedaling at times.

Pacquiao been criticized that he didn't fought a slick boxer, that he didn't fought a "black" boxer. I'm sure Pacquiao is not afraid to face the mother of all slick, "black" boxers and that's Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Of course he'll fight mayweather, its worth money..but he should have already faced slick fighters. Zahir Raheem would have taxed his ass he instead opted to faced morrales after raheem gave him a one sided ass whooping right in front of pacman.

[fanjohn]

^I agree with the "Ring Experience". Mayweather was fighting for a title while Pacquiao was still green.

Mayweather also wins in the "Ring General" category, which is probably the main thing to consider. Mayweather always seems to control the pace of a fight. If he does so against Pacquiao, Pacquiao is in for a long night.

To me it boils down to this: Pacquiao wins by beating up his opponents. Mayweather wins by outclassing them. I have never ever seen Mayweather beaten up to the extent that Pacquiao needs to beat him up, but I have seen Pacquiao outboxed by lesser boxers.

There's a reason why Pacquiao's people have kept him away from slick boxers, and I think we're going to see why if this fight were to happen.

Two months after Floyd got his 1st title at 130, Pacquiao got his 1st title too and it's a lineal one at 112. Pacquiao beat the man that beat the man.

Regarding ring generalship, Pacquiao is also very good in controlling the pace of the fight. He can dictate the pace even against bigger men. He has them back pedaling at times.

Pacquiao been criticized that he didn't fought a slick boxer, that he didn't fought a "black" boxer. I'm sure Pacquiao is not afraid to face the mother of all slick, "black" boxers and that's Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Of course he'll fight mayweather, its worth money..but he should have already faced slick fighters. Zahir Raheem would have taxed his ass he instead opted to faced morrales after raheem gave him a one sided ass whooping right in front of pacman.

No need to argue since this is 4 years too late. What's infront of Pacquiao right now is the mother of all slick "black" boxers, Floyd Jr. and not Zahir Raheem. Pacquiao is ready to fight Floyd and it will put to rest any accusations that Pacquiao is avoiding slick boxers and "black" boxers.

[fanjohn]

Here's my breakdown of the advantages/disadvantages for each boxer:

.......................Size - Floyd
..............Skills/Style - Floyd
...................Weight - Floyd
....................Reach - Floyd
...........Height/Taller - Floyd
................Accuracy - Floyd

.......................Age - Pacquiao
....................Power - Pacquiao
................Workrate - Pacquiao
Quality of Opponents - Pacquiao
.......Ring Experience - Pacquiao
.....................Heart - Pacquiao
....... Recent activity - Pacquiao

....................Speed - EVEN
.......Ring Generalship - EVEN
..................Stamina - EVEN
.......................Chin - EVEN
.........Corner/Trainer - EVEN


Discuss...

The first two actually go to floyd as floyd has way more experience than PAC..Floyd had a very long amateur career. This why PAC is just now becoming a well rounded fighter.

And Floyd has beaten a wider variety of opponents meaning styles, where as Manny was protected from fighting slick boxers and still to this day hasn't fought a slick boxer.

HEART - I don't know how you measure this but I think its just a dumb way of trying to give manny an "advantage", Why doesn't floyd have heat? Because he's undefeated? Well it takes more heart than one gets credit for to constantly lace 'em up with the huge target on his back that floyd has.

And As far as Recent activity, this could very easily count against Manny as he himself just stated that he wants a vacation because the cotto fight was very tough, not to mention they've been riding him over the last two years. with 5 fights. Where as Floyd has been resting and came back with an easy tune up against a very good small man.

I say amateur and pro were 2 different animals. There were boxers beaten in the amateurs but did good in the pro ranks and vice versa. I'm only counting the experiences of both Floyd and Pacquiao in their pro career. Pacquiao is a 15 year veteran with 55 total pro fights fought from flyweight to welterweight divisions. Floyd is a 13 year veteran with 40 total pro fights. "Ring Experience" should go to Pacquiao, no doubt about that.

"Quality of Opponents" might be EVEN as revised earlier in the thread.

I gave "Heart"(or guts) to Pacquiao since we had already seen Pacquiao fighting with a lot of heart against tough competition. This factor is still a big question mark in Floyd's side. What will happen if Floyd gets cut, hit flush and drawn in a bloody war? Will Floyd fold? It's a big question mark. So I would rather give this factor to the proven boxer as against the one where it's still a question mark.

I still give "Recent Activity" to Pacquiao. He's been fighting regularly while Floyd was having vacation (retirement) from time to time. Those recent Pacquiao wars will prepare him to face the bigger wars ahead while Floyd is enjoying a soft tune-up where he almost had all the advantages.