I was wrong, but i'm stunned by the reactin to last nights fight

[Pugilistic]

look at the second butt, the one that opened the cut over kesslers right eye at the 5:30 mark

http://www.youtube.com/v/BbY83_XZjE4&hl=en_GB&fs=1

his hands are by his side and he brings the head up into kesslers face, BEFORE trying to clinch

if it wasnt intentional what was ward trying to achieve by just throwing himself up against kessler with his hands down ?

I watched it a second time and i stand by my first opinion.

It was an accident.

Ward threw a punch but lunged forward when he threw it.

The momentum from the lunge made Ward clash heads with Kess.

did you watch the video or decide upon your response beforehand ? he throws the shot and lead foot lands, followed by him pushing off his back foot which brings the head up into kesslers face

you make it seem as if ward has no control over his own body and just flops around the ring and its your fault if you get in the way of his forehead

Of course i did.

He lunged forward when he threw a punch and the momentum from the lunge made him clash heads with Kessler.

Ward lunges with his punches quite alot.

I don't understand why people care so much about a intentional or unintentional headbutt anyway, It wasn't like that changed the momentum of the fight.

Ward dominated from ROUND 1.

[hitmanhatton]

I watched it a second time and i stand by my first opinion.

It was an accident.

Ward threw a punch but lunged forward when he threw it.

The momentum from the lunge made Ward clash heads with Kess.

did you watch the video or decide upon your response beforehand ? he throws the shot and lead foot lands, followed by him pushing off his back foot which brings the head up into kesslers face

you make it seem as if ward has no control over his own body and just flops around the ring and its your fault if you get in the way of his forehead

Of course i did.

He lunged forward when he threw a punch and the momentum from the lunge made him clash heads with Kessler.

Ward lunges with his punches quite alot.

I don't understand why people care so much about a intentional or unintentional headbutt anyway, It wasn't like that changed the momentum of the fight.

Ward dominated from ROUND 1.

ye ill be the first to admit kessler was taken to school, almost every flaw in his game was shown up

however the headbutts are a talking point, i personally think ward was perhaps tiring a little (his punch output did drop) and was using the rough tactics just to ensure there was no late surge from kessler

[OumaFan]

LOL, he was still dominating the fight. Sorry I just find it hard to believe that.

Regardless he needs to watch his head.

[hitmanhatton]

LOL, he was still dominating the fight. Sorry I just find it hard to believe that.

Regardless he needs to watch his head.

why ?

i personally find it hard to believe that all FIVE head clashes were unitentional when it was kessler on the recieving end every time

[OumaFan]

Why? Because it makes no sense. At all.

The ass kicking was just getting worse round by round, why would it make sense that there and then is the point to try to end the fight with a headbutt? Seriously, that makes sense?

Where were the five head clashes by the way? I have a copy so I could go back and watch, I only noticed a couple.

[hitmanhatton]

Why? Because it makes no sense. At all.

The ass kicking was just getting worse round by round, why would it make sense that there and then is the point to try to end the fight with a headbutt? Seriously, that makes sense?

Where were the five head clashes by the way? I have a copy so I could go back and watch, I only noticed a couple.

the ref himself stated he noticed 5.... you could take it up with him i guess

i am not saying he tried to end the fight with it... as i said his punch output clearly drops and kessler was starting to become slightly, only very slightly more accurate with his shots... surely it isnt so hard to believe that ward was trying to knock him out his rythem a little

funny that there are no headclashes in the first few rounds when ward was fresh and firing a high volume of shots but quite a few later on...

[OumaFan]

later on when he was really kicking his ass?

I guess I just tend to think of guys fouling out of desperation or even to gain an edge in a close fight, which yeah wasn't the case here. I really don't get the uproar over this fight, at least with the headbutts there's something there but last night you had Kel and Miles going nuts about the holding and there was no way Ward should have had a point taken for holding, not even close.

Maybe if I watch again I'll check for my headbutts, there were only two-three really noticeable ones that Kessler seemed bothered by.