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So you're knocking Calzaghe because Kessler lost, and yet Hopkins scored THE BEST (in his words) win of his career after Calzaghe but that doesn't count because he was "old."

Kessler was unbeaten when Calzaghe beat him.

Hopkins arguably scored the most impressive wins of his career either side of the Calzaghe loss (certainly in his opinion).

Most importantly Calzaghe was never knocked out by golfers and journymen. Fact.
Pavlik was the best win of Hopkins' career because it was unexpected, had Hopkins beaten Calzaghe I am sure THAT would have been the biggest win of his career.
Expected or not. He still schooled him. IIRC opinion on this board was quite divided in the sense that around half though Pavlik would KO Calzaghe. Pavlik was that highly rated. Hopkins being old has no relevance to Calzaghe, given he went and produced that performance after losing to Joe.

Even mentioning the age of Hopkins has little significance given that Calzaghe was around 36 when they fought.

In relation to the topic, Calzaghe beat Kessler properly. I'm not sure what Ward did. It was ugly anyway. However, Ward is a very good fighter, but this win doesn't take anything away from Joe. Not for me anyway.