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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Floyd beats Ricky any day, any weight, anywhere.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Ricky was a different animal because they let him do whatever he wanted. As soon as Ricky is not allowed to wrestle and foul he is not that good.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    i just think Mayweather would have been in for one un-comfortable night
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Hatton was an animal that night yes, but the ref let him get away with a helluva lot 2!

    With the same type of officiating that night, I'd have to say Floyd wins by decision instead of the ko he scored when they fought.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    I agree Kostya Tszyu wasn't at his best, but it is overrated how shot he was and at the time no one gave Ricky Hatton a chance.

    Kostya Tszyu was a top 5 P4P fighter, and he did recently stop Sharmba Mitchell, quicker than he had done previously.

    I just don't think Kostya Tszyu deals well with swarmers, because he needs room to get full power into his power punches, he hasn't really got a good inside game he does his best work at mid-range.

    As for the topic i think Ricky Hatton does a little better, but not by much. Floyd Mayweather Jr has a very good and underrated inside game, and swarmers have never bothered Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    i have got to admit, Mayweather is a better inside fighter that hatton, he proved that in their fight.
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Of course the fight would've been different.

    Ricky was much fresher then

    Billy Graham was also younger

    Joe Cortez wouldn't have been ref and so wouldn't have been biased to begin with and wouldn't have been even more biased after the national anthem got booed

    Mayweather back then was also a lot smaller

    It would have been a very different fight. Would Ricky have won? I dunno. Floyd is a phenominal athlete and pound for pound king.

    You can say Tszyu only had done 3 rounds in so many years but lets face it. Sharmba Mitchel was the top of the division then and Kostya rinsed him in 3. That shows the shape and condition Tszyu was in. He was far from passed it. He was looking to beat Rick easily and then move on to bigger things, retiring was not in his thoughts.

    To be honest I don't think Ricky has anything to be ashamed of for his performance in vegas.

    I think Ricks performance against Floyd will be put into context after Floyd fights Pac.
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Ricky would've banged into a different ring post on his way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Ricky would've banged into a different ring post on his way down.
    never saw that comming!! fool
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
    Clutching at straws more than Tszyu was his groin with that one! I refer to Whitaker V Rivera 1996, when Rivera lands his first low blow in round 6 referee Frank Santore has no hesitation in deducting a point, if Tszyu V Hatton was in Las Vegas then Hatton gets DQ'd. Mayweather completely outclassed Hatton in Vegas and not even that British referee could have saved him. I had it a shut out up until the KO.
    Last edited by THE THIRD MAN; 11-27-2009 at 08:19 AM.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
    Clutching at straws more than Tszyu was his groin with that one! I refer to Whitaker V Rivera 1996, when Rivera lands his first low blow in round 6 referee Frank Santore has no hesitation in deducting a point, if Tszyu V Hatton was in Las Vegas then Hatton gets DQ'd. Mayweather completely outclassed Hatton in Vegas and not even that British referee could have saved him. I had it a shut out up until the KO.
    Sorry to be pedenatic but how do you have it a shut out when Mayweather spent practically the entire 5th round on the ropes? ( iirc it was the 5th).
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
    Clutching at straws more than Tszyu was his groin with that one! I refer to Whitaker V Rivera 1996, when Rivera lands his first low blow in round 6 referee Frank Santore has no hesitation in deducting a point, if Tszyu V Hatton was in Las Vegas then Hatton gets DQ'd. Mayweather completely outclassed Hatton in Vegas and not even that British referee could have saved him. I had it a shut out up until the KO.
    dont be so bitter dude! tszyu took the loss with absolute dignity, his whining aussie fans have never shut up about it since. and you call us whinging poms.

    seriously ricky hatton is not overrated. nobody in their right mind thinks he was the greatest fighter ever, he fought the best and he came up short. BUT he was a loveable chap and he had a massive fan base and everybody wanted him to do well.

    would he have been better that night vs pbf. YES, clearly.
    1. He had a ref that allowed him to fight inside (wrong or right is a different matter)
    2. He had been in significantly less battles
    3. He had bloated and lost the weight less times
    4. It was at the weight he performed best at 140lb
    5. He was younger
    6. The preacher (his trainer) was younger, and didn't need pain kiiling injections in his hands
    7. It was at home in the UK

    SO, wd it have suited him better, yes, would he have won probably not. As with the fight in vegas he would have had a punchers chance, but pbf has still got to be favourite.

    Now tell me I am a fanboy/nuthugger!

    ps (I am a massive ricky hatton fan)

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
    Clutching at straws more than Tszyu was his groin with that one! I refer to Whitaker V Rivera 1996, when Rivera lands his first low blow in round 6 referee Frank Santore has no hesitation in deducting a point, if Tszyu V Hatton was in Las Vegas then Hatton gets DQ'd. Mayweather completely outclassed Hatton in Vegas and not even that British referee could have saved him. I had it a shut out up until the KO.
    Get out of town Ya must have been wearing them PBF coloured glasses were ya, upto rd5-6 i had Ricky up on the scorecards, up till the point Floyd rabbit punched Ricky whilst his head was outside the ropes.

    Regarding the low blow, should a point not have been taken off either man for the low blows then ? Hey whats good for the goose is good for the gander innit
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