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    Default Re: The Nameless pre-Christmas Geek Quizz

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    They are not all americans... beside, the bomb throwing has been damn not necessary as the Japanese were already willing to surrender, it was more to pass a message to the russkovs but that is all another story

    So back on topic, can you find out who are some of them, Lyle?
    I never said they all were Americans, I just said they were patriots.

    Japan was NOT willing to surrender, have you ever looked at how many people on both sides were dying in the island hopping campaign building up to an actual invasion of Japan proper The bomb saved lives FACT...it wasn't much of a message to the Russians, they built their own bombs undeterred by the US having them already, so I fail to see your reasoning.

    Why must everything be evil and war crimes with you I guess in your opinion we would have been better off losing World War II

    Lyle. Everyone can have a big stick. It's a matter of who is prepared to use it.
    Not only did the US use it, they used it twice. Truly shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Lyle. Everyone can have a big stick. It's a matter of who is prepared to use it.
    Not only did the US use it, they used it twice. Truly shocking.
    We had to, Japan DID NOT want to surrender and here are some stats to prove it

    Mariana & Palau Islands Campaign - 9,500 Americans KIA; 63,000 Japanese KIA

    Iwo Jima - nearly 7,000 Americans KIA; over 22,000 Japanese KIA

    Okinawa - over 12,000 Americans KIA; over 110,000 Japanese KIA and maybe 42,000-150,000 civilians killed

    The closer the US got to Honshu the more the Japanese threw at the US and the more fiercely they defended their land. In the end we dropped the bombs and it was the RIGHT THING TO DO. It saved more lives than it took.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Lyle. Everyone can have a big stick. It's a matter of who is prepared to use it.
    Not only did the US use it, they used it twice. Truly shocking.
    We had to, Japan DID NOT want to surrender and here are some stats to prove it

    Mariana & Palau Islands Campaign - 9,500 Americans KIA; 63,000 Japanese KIA

    Iwo Jima - nearly 7,000 Americans KIA; over 22,000 Japanese KIA

    Okinawa - over 12,000 Americans KIA; over 110,000 Japanese KIA and maybe 42,000-150,000 civilians killed

    The closer the US got to Honshu the more the Japanese threw at the US and the more fiercely they defended their land. In the end we dropped the bombs and it was the RIGHT THING TO DO. It saved more lives than it took.
    Lyle... they defended themselves because they had to. Why do you think that so many Japs were killed compared to the US? because they had nothing more to defend themselves. Read a glorious way to die, the last day of the famous Yamamoto boat, I can suggest you other among other things. THe Japanese were about to surrender, you can even read a very good article about it written by Alperovitz, they had the transcripts from the Japanese conversations, they wanted to call it a day if they could spare the Emperor.
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    The bombs saved lives....if we wanted to take Honshu and take the Emperor then they would never have given up and the fact Japan still has an Emperor still irks me but MacArthur (that cocksucker ruined us in Korea) thought he was a symbol of pride to the people of Japan and he apparently didn't want the Emperor to step down even though the US could have just wiped out the position altogether.

    Douglas MacArthur was perhaps America's most dangerous general. I like Patton but he never got to be America's most dangerous general as #1 He was always on a tight leash and #2 He died shortly after WWII....but in the field of combat he was ALWAYS a winner....although he was an asshole (one of my family friends served under General Patton and I asked him about Pit and he said Patton was "a son of a bitch")

    Japan being "about to surrender" after suffering so many casualties just for a couple of islands....come on Nameless you must admit that something drastic had to be done and a carpet bombing campaign would have just massacred thousands of people...the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki really limited the damage AND they made it so Japan was incapable of adding ships, weapons, tanks, etc to their forces.

    Either way the bombs got dropped the war ended and Japan now flourishes with the help of Americans rebuilding that nation.

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