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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Im a fan of Chad Dawson but come on Chad Dawson, leave the old guys alone and focus on the young uns.

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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    yeh nut the old guy Hopkins is beating the best ICB, or if not winning comming very close.
    dont Fuck with the chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    yeh nut the old guy Hopkins is beating the best ICB, or if not winning comming very close.
    Nah your not understanding what im saying mate, im not doubting Bernard Hopkins wouldn't be a tough fight for Chad Dawson. I'd just like to see Chad Dawson take on some of the new upcoming Light Heavyweights, its more exciting to me rather than a boring controversial tactical fight with Bernard Hopkins.

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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    yeh nut the old guy Hopkins is beating the best ICB, or if not winning comming very close.
    Nah your not understanding what im saying mate, im not doubting Bernard Hopkins wouldn't be a tough fight for Chad Dawson. I'd just like to see Chad Dawson take on some of the new upcoming Light Heavyweights, its more exciting to me rather than a boring controversial tactical fight with Bernard Hopkins.
    There's an important factor here that your missing though Ice.

    Bernard technically was the linear champ at light heavyweight. He beat Antonio Tarver to claim the undisputed title and was the Ring champ. Since then he lost to Calzaghe in a close fight but Calzaghe has now retired. Also there was no belt on the line against Calzaghe as it was fought at 170 so Hopkins is basically still the linear champ.

    You will see that the Ring now have the 175 title as vacant and it will remain as long as B Hop keeps fighting and avoiding Chad Dawson.

    Dawson wants to be recognised as the the undisputed champ at 175 and the only way he can lay claim to that is by beating Hopkins.

    For Dawsons status as number, for his legacy in beating the old champion and for the universal respect of fight fans he needs to beat Bernard Hopkins.

    Wins over the likes of Tarver, Johnson and maybe Pascal or Diaconu won't make him number one the way a win over B Hop will.

    Clearly Dawson wants B Hop, its by far the most significant fight out there for him, and he wants to say he beat the champ to become the champ.

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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    dawson better be careful what he asks for. 2 mediocre fights with johnson IMO with him losing the first one and now he thinks he's the shet... i say hopkins crashes dawsons parade and send him back to new haven with his jaw on a sling. they said that about pavlik kick bhops ass but we saw what happend
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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    dawson better be careful what he asks for. 2 mediocre fights with johnson IMO with him losing the first one and now he thinks he's the shet... i say hopkins crashes dawsons parade and send him back to new haven with his jaw on a sling. they said that about pavlik kick bhops ass but we saw what happend
    If Dawson is such an easy win for BHop then why is he avoiding him? Obviously BHop doesn't think so. BHop was willing to fight Adamek, whom Dawson beat. BHop was willing to fight Glen Johnson had he beat Dawson either time. And BHop was willing to fight Ornelas for a mere $200,000 so money is not the issue. And you can't be serious comparing Pavlik to Dawson. That is so laughable. People said BHop would beat Taylor. Look what happened there. Anybody can play that game...its called avoidance. There are 1000 differences between Dawson and Pavlik. They fight nothing alike not to mention Dawson is bigger, faster, stronger, more athletic, more agile, more versatile, more equipped, better experienced, southpaw, etc... BHop fans can say what they want about why he won't fight Dawson, its easy for us to talk on the sideline, but the man who actually has to step in the ring with Dawson refuses to take the fight every single time. How can anybody, fan or hater, spin for the good what BHop is blatantly doing to avoid a Dawson fight?
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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    yeh nut the old guy Hopkins is beating the best ICB, or if not winning comming very close.
    Nah your not understanding what im saying mate, im not doubting Bernard Hopkins wouldn't be a tough fight for Chad Dawson. I'd just like to see Chad Dawson take on some of the new upcoming Light Heavyweights, its more exciting to me rather than a boring controversial tactical fight with Bernard Hopkins.
    There's an important factor here that your missing though Ice.

    Bernard technically was the linear champ at light heavyweight. He beat Antonio Tarver to claim the undisputed title and was the Ring champ. Since then he lost to Calzaghe in a close fight but Calzaghe has now retired. Also there was no belt on the line against Calzaghe as it was fought at 170 so Hopkins is basically still the linear champ.

    You will see that the Ring now have the 175 title as vacant and it will remain as long as B Hop keeps fighting and avoiding Chad Dawson.

    Dawson wants to be recognised as the the undisputed champ at 175 and the only way he can lay claim to that is by beating Hopkins.

    For Dawsons status as number, for his legacy in beating the old champion and for the universal respect of fight fans he needs to beat Bernard Hopkins.

    Wins over the likes of Tarver, Johnson and maybe Pascal or Diaconu won't make him number one the way a win over B Hop will.

    Clearly Dawson wants B Hop, its by far the most significant fight out there for him, and he wants to say he beat the champ to become the champ.
    The lightheavy title was on the line (it wasn't at 170). Calzaghe then defended it against Roy.

    It's vacant cause he retired.
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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Nah your not understanding what im saying mate, im not doubting Bernard Hopkins wouldn't be a tough fight for Chad Dawson. I'd just like to see Chad Dawson take on some of the new upcoming Light Heavyweights, its more exciting to me rather than a boring controversial tactical fight with Bernard Hopkins.
    There's an important factor here that your missing though Ice.

    Bernard technically was the linear champ at light heavyweight. He beat Antonio Tarver to claim the undisputed title and was the Ring champ. Since then he lost to Calzaghe in a close fight but Calzaghe has now retired. Also there was no belt on the line against Calzaghe as it was fought at 170 so Hopkins is basically still the linear champ.

    You will see that the Ring now have the 175 title as vacant and it will remain as long as B Hop keeps fighting and avoiding Chad Dawson.

    Dawson wants to be recognised as the the undisputed champ at 175 and the only way he can lay claim to that is by beating Hopkins.

    For Dawsons status as number, for his legacy in beating the old champion and for the universal respect of fight fans he needs to beat Bernard Hopkins.

    Wins over the likes of Tarver, Johnson and maybe Pascal or Diaconu won't make him number one the way a win over B Hop will.

    Clearly Dawson wants B Hop, its by far the most significant fight out there for him, and he wants to say he beat the champ to become the champ.
    The lightheavy title was on the line (it wasn't at 170). Calzaghe then defended it against Roy.

    It's vacant cause he retired.
    I don't know, according to boxrec Calzaghe Hopkins wasn't a title fight.

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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    There's an important factor here that your missing though Ice.

    Bernard technically was the linear champ at light heavyweight. He beat Antonio Tarver to claim the undisputed title and was the Ring champ. Since then he lost to Calzaghe in a close fight but Calzaghe has now retired. Also there was no belt on the line against Calzaghe as it was fought at 170 so Hopkins is basically still the linear champ.

    You will see that the Ring now have the 175 title as vacant and it will remain as long as B Hop keeps fighting and avoiding Chad Dawson.

    Dawson wants to be recognised as the the undisputed champ at 175 and the only way he can lay claim to that is by beating Hopkins.

    For Dawsons status as number, for his legacy in beating the old champion and for the universal respect of fight fans he needs to beat Bernard Hopkins.

    Wins over the likes of Tarver, Johnson and maybe Pascal or Diaconu won't make him number one the way a win over B Hop will.

    Clearly Dawson wants B Hop, its by far the most significant fight out there for him, and he wants to say he beat the champ to become the champ.
    The lightheavy title was on the line (it wasn't at 170). Calzaghe then defended it against Roy.

    It's vacant cause he retired.
    I don't know, according to boxrec Calzaghe Hopkins wasn't a title fight.
    Well boxrec are wrong then.
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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna View Post
    yeh nut the old guy Hopkins is beating the best ICB, or if not winning comming very close.
    Nah your not understanding what im saying mate, im not doubting Bernard Hopkins wouldn't be a tough fight for Chad Dawson. I'd just like to see Chad Dawson take on some of the new upcoming Light Heavyweights, its more exciting to me rather than a boring controversial tactical fight with Bernard Hopkins.
    There's an important factor here that your missing though Ice.

    Bernard technically was the linear champ at light heavyweight. He beat Antonio Tarver to claim the undisputed title and was the Ring champ. Since then he lost to Calzaghe in a close fight but Calzaghe has now retired. Also there was no belt on the line against Calzaghe as it was fought at 170 so Hopkins is basically still the linear champ.

    You will see that the Ring now have the 175 title as vacant and it will remain as long as B Hop keeps fighting and avoiding Chad Dawson.

    Dawson wants to be recognised as the the undisputed champ at 175 and the only way he can lay claim to that is by beating Hopkins.

    For Dawsons status as number, for his legacy in beating the old champion and for the universal respect of fight fans he needs to beat Bernard Hopkins.

    Wins over the likes of Tarver, Johnson and maybe Pascal or Diaconu won't make him number one the way a win over B Hop will.

    Clearly Dawson wants B Hop, its by far the most significant fight out there for him, and he wants to say he beat the champ to become the champ.
    Calzaghe - Hopkins was at the 175 weigh limit. Both fighters weighed in at 173 at the weigh in.

    Just thought i would let you know.

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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Two times now Hopkins sat and counted the bucks waiting, only to watch rival cash cow Jones get handled badly.Dawson needs him much,much more than Hopkins needs a Dawson.He's where the glory and the history are at...rematch wins over Johnson and Tarver will not put Dawson on the map.Talk loud and hope to draw him in,he may bite.I think Hopkins barring some insta age and depletion can handle Dawson.First things first....Hopkins has to look lively and impressive tonight vs Rugged Ornelus
    I agree that Dawson needs Hopkins much more than Hopkins needs Dawson. Dawson fought Tarver and Johnson because they were the biggest names out there other than Hopkins not because they were the best challenges or for legacy reasons.

    I don't necessarily agree that Hopkins will handle Dawson. As Taeth mentioned in a post, Hopkins has a problem with athletic, volume punchers, and Dawson is of that breed. Hopkins hits and holds and one way to beat a holder is to win rounds by punching more a la Calzaghe. It didn't work for Pavlik because Hopkins was the bigger man in that fight and wouldn't let Pavlik get off. In Dawson, Hopkins faces a bigger man who he shouldn't be able to manhandle. On first glance, I like Dawson in that fight actually.

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    Im a fan of Chad Dawson but come on Chad Dawson, leave the old guys alone and focus on the young uns.
    Him beating the Young ones isnt gonna get him the exposure he needs. He needs a bunch of names on his resume to have some sort of draw so fighting(and beating if he did) Hopkins would make him a name and he may even get a ppv match out of it. But he has to fight these "old guys" to get his name out because he isnt a naturally hyped ko machine
    This is right. He isn't the most exciting fighter to watch because at the top level he hasn't been able to knock out anyone.

    My opinion is that assuming Dawson can't fight Hopkins, he should fight the Pascal/Diaconu winner and continue trying to unify, even flying to Germany to beat the Miranda/Stieglitz winner.

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    Default Re: Dawson Blasts Hopkins "You Can't Run"

    Dawson is too fresh, hungry and dangerous for Hopkins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Im a fan of Chad Dawson but come on Chad Dawson, leave the old guys alone and focus on the young uns.
    Him beating the Young ones isnt gonna get him the exposure he needs. He needs a bunch of names on his resume to have some sort of draw so fighting(and beating if he did) Hopkins would make him a name and he may even get a ppv match out of it. But he has to fight these "old guys" to get his name out because he isnt a naturally hyped ko machine
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