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I see you've read the papers today...Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Slovakia actually have some half-decent players. Hamsik and Skrtel. Watch out for Weiss aswell. Young lad at City. Scored against Arsenal last night and ripped Jonny Evans a new arsehole in the qualifiers.
The seeding seems a little weird. 4th seeds seem almost as strong as the 2nd seeds.
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I think we should be expected semis no less this time, I dont think we will win it, seedings are a bit silly.
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I see you've read the papers today...
Slovakia actually have some half-decent players. Hamsik and Skrtel. Watch out for Weiss aswell. Young lad at City. Scored against Arsenal last night and ripped Jonny Evans a new arsehole in the qualifiers.
The seeding seems a little weird. 4th seeds seem almost as strong as the 2nd seeds.
only the 1st pot of south africa, brazil, italy, germany, england, holland, spain and argentina is seeded
The other 3 pots are all based on where the country qualified from as FIFA want to keep sides from the same continents apart!!
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FIFA just seem to make there own rules up as they go, the first pot is off world rankings but France are higher than the English but England are in pot 1, im not complaining but how the hell did they come up with that?I see you've read the papers today...
Slovakia actually have some half-decent players. Hamsik and Skrtel. Watch out for Weiss aswell. Young lad at City. Scored against Arsenal last night and ripped Jonny Evans a new arsehole in the qualifiers.
The seeding seems a little weird. 4th seeds seem almost as strong as the 2nd seeds.
only the 1st pot of south africa, brazil, italy, germany, england, holland, spain and argentina is seeded
The other 3 pots are all based on where the country qualified from as FIFA want to keep sides from the same continents apart!!
Is It something to do with France not winning there group?
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England had a far better qualification processFIFA just seem to make there own rules up as they go, the first pot is off world rankings but France are higher than the English but England are in pot 1, im not complaining but how the hell did they come up with that?I see you've read the papers today...
Slovakia actually have some half-decent players. Hamsik and Skrtel. Watch out for Weiss aswell. Young lad at City. Scored against Arsenal last night and ripped Jonny Evans a new arsehole in the qualifiers.
The seeding seems a little weird. 4th seeds seem almost as strong as the 2nd seeds.
only the 1st pot of south africa, brazil, italy, germany, england, holland, spain and argentina is seeded
The other 3 pots are all based on where the country qualified from as FIFA want to keep sides from the same continents apart!!
Is It something to do with France not winning there group?
Think we actually got seeded as the 5th side so easily made it in with the big boys
You would think the world cup is pretty much between the seeded sides (not south africa obviously)
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England had a far better qualification processFIFA just seem to make there own rules up as they go, the first pot is off world rankings but France are higher than the English but England are in pot 1, im not complaining but how the hell did they come up with that?
Is It something to do with France not winning there group?
Think we actually got seeded as the 5th side so easily made it in with the big boys
You would think the world cup is pretty much between the seeded sides (not south africa obviously
Nah mate I just looked it up:
As I thought it wasnt nothing to do with qualification it was purely the world rankings minus the hosts, but apparently FIFA have gone off the rankings from October rather than the current ones, if FIFA had gone off the rankings when the seeds were announced England would of been pot 4 as England have dropped and France have risen since the October rankings. Now if that was on the other foot we probably wouldnt of heard the end of it, bit unfair on the French really.
Should of gone off the rankings when all teams had qualified for the WC meaning France would of been the last team seeded in pot one and England in pot 4, but like I said im not complaining
England will avoid the biggest names in football when the World Cup draw is made on Friday, after Fabio Capello's team were named as one of the top eight seeds.
France, the runners-up in 2006, and Portugal were the biggest losers after the organising committee for the South Africa tournament decided to base the seedings on the official Fifa world rankings as they stood in October 2009.
The eight top seeds are South Africa as hosts, and, in order of October's rankings, Brazil, Spain, Holland, Italy, Germany, Argentina and England. The official Fifa rankings take in performances in all matches over the last four years, but are weighted towards competitive games and those played most recently.
If the rankings from November 2009 had been used, England would have been ranked ninth and would have missed out to France, who would have been ranked seventh. But Jérôme Valcke, Fifa's general secretary, said it was fairer to base the seedings on the October rankings when all European teams had played the same number of games, ahead of the play-offs. Valcke denied that the controversy surrounding France's play-off with the Republic of Ireland was a factor in the decision.
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England had a far better qualification process
Think we actually got seeded as the 5th side so easily made it in with the big boys
You would think the world cup is pretty much between the seeded sides (not south africa obviously
Nah mate I just looked it up:
As I thought it wasnt nothing to do with qualification it was purely the world rankings minus the hosts, but apparently FIFA have gone off the rankings from October rather than the current ones, if FIFA had gone off the rankings when the seeds were announced England would of been pot 4 as England have dropped and France have risen since the October rankings. Now if that was on the other foot we probably wouldnt of heard the end of it, bit unfair on the French really.
Should of gone off the rankings when all teams had qualified for the WC meaning France would of been the last team seeded in pot one and England in pot 4, but like I said im not complaining
England will avoid the biggest names in football when the World Cup draw is made on Friday, after Fabio Capello's team were named as one of the top eight seeds.
France, the runners-up in 2006, and Portugal were the biggest losers after the organising committee for the South Africa tournament decided to base the seedings on the official Fifa world rankings as they stood in October 2009.
The eight top seeds are South Africa as hosts, and, in order of October's rankings, Brazil, Spain, Holland, Italy, Germany, Argentina and England. The official Fifa rankings take in performances in all matches over the last four years, but are weighted towards competitive games and those played most recently.
If the rankings from November 2009 had been used, England would have been ranked ninth and would have missed out to France, who would have been ranked seventh. But Jérôme Valcke, Fifa's general secretary, said it was fairer to base the seedings on the October rankings when all European teams had played the same number of games, ahead of the play-offs. Valcke denied that the controversy surrounding France's play-off with the Republic of Ireland was a factor in the decision.
The world rankings are nothing short of a joke
Remember england spending years behind the likes of USA and mexico just so those respective countrys could up their coefficent rankings to secure more world cup places
When Englands 2nd string side went over to america and beat the US team 2-0 to show the actual gap in class we went back down to 14 while the US side moved above the czech republic into 7th
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Meh, I hope we don't get another hard group but I suspect we will. In the end it doesn't matter what kind of group the US or England get
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