Andre Berto Pulls Off The Upset Shane Mosley Is Getting Overrated.

[brucelee]

Im sorry but i am getting a bit tired of hearing, well Manny Pacquiao could fight Shane Mosley after the Floyd Mayweather Jr fight. People are already writing off Andre Berto's chances which is unfair IMO.

Andre Berto has a very good jab, something Shane Mosley has alot of trouble with. Miguel Cotto basically won vs Shane Mosley by just using his jab, so did Vernon Forrest so did Winky Wright.

Andre Berto is as fast as Shane Mosley and fresher IMO, Andre Berto has some underrated technical boxing skills. And he has some good pop to his punches.

The only real weakness i see with Andre Berto, is that he squares himself up too much on the inside. But i think he did improve on that somewhat vs Juan Urango.

I admit Andre Berto hasn't really beaten an elite name yet, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing so.

Shane Mosley is getting overrated too much IMO, he didn't look good in the Ricardo Mayorga fight and only fought in spurts, he looked like a finished fighter in that fight until the last round.

He looked good in the Antonio Margarito fight, but couldn't that be down to being a perfect stylistic match up for Shane Mosley. Plus Antonio Margarito not being as good without handwraps ? where was the thudding punching power like he had in the Golden Johnson, Miguel Cotto, fights ?

I didn't think Shane Mosley looked that good in that Miguel Cotto fight either, he was totally outboxed and only won rounds when Miguel Cotto cruised in the later rounds.

As for Luis Collazo fight well i thought Luis Collazo was being effective with his left hand, until he broke his best weapon his left hand. Now i know we can't say for certain how the fight would of gone, even if Luis Collazo hadn't had broke his left hand. But surely it would of been more competitive IMO it would have.

And now for Fernando Vargas fights, well he won the 2nd fight in good fashion. But Fernando Vargas was total crap in the 2nd fight, and was a finished fighter.

His last good performance was in the 1st fight, he looked real good and may of been winning the fight before his eye got completely closed. He looked really up for that fight, but then seemed to lack fire in the 2nd fight and looked completely gone from the 1st bell.

Im not trying to discredit Shane Mosley, i do like him as a fighter. He's one of my favorite modern fighters, but do think people overrate him on here just for the win over Antonio Margarito, i remember people were saying how bad he looked in the Ricardo Mayorga fight including me, now people are saying his back ? i don't buy it.

Andre Berto by close MD controlling Shane Mosley behind his jab.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but no one's talking about Pac vs Shane here. Pac is planning to retire after he fights Mayweather.

I haven't heard of anyone discounting Andre Berto either.

[ICB]

Im sorry but i am getting a bit tired of hearing, well Manny Pacquiao could fight Shane Mosley after the Floyd Mayweather Jr fight. People are already writing off Andre Berto's chances which is unfair IMO.

Andre Berto has a very good jab, something Shane Mosley has alot of trouble with. Miguel Cotto basically won vs Shane Mosley by just using his jab, so did Vernon Forrest so did Winky Wright.

Andre Berto is as fast as Shane Mosley and fresher IMO, Andre Berto has some underrated technical boxing skills. And he has some good pop to his punches.

The only real weakness i see with Andre Berto, is that he squares himself up too much on the inside. But i think he did improve on that somewhat vs Juan Urango.

I admit Andre Berto hasn't really beaten an elite name yet, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing so.

Shane Mosley is getting overrated too much IMO, he didn't look good in the Ricardo Mayorga fight and only fought in spurts, he looked like a finished fighter in that fight until the last round.

He looked good in the Antonio Margarito fight, but couldn't that be down to being a perfect stylistic match up for Shane Mosley. Plus Antonio Margarito not being as good without handwraps ? where was the thudding punching power like he had in the Golden Johnson, Miguel Cotto, fights ?

I didn't think Shane Mosley looked that good in that Miguel Cotto fight either, he was totally outboxed and only won rounds when Miguel Cotto cruised in the later rounds.

As for Luis Collazo fight well i thought Luis Collazo was being effective with his left hand, until he broke his best weapon his left hand. Now i know we can't say for certain how the fight would of gone, even if Luis Collazo hadn't had broke his left hand. But surely it would of been more competitive IMO it would have.

And now for Fernando Vargas fights, well he won the 2nd fight in good fashion. But Fernando Vargas was total crap in the 2nd fight, and was a finished fighter.

His last good performance was in the 1st fight, he looked real good and may of been winning the fight before his eye got completely closed. He looked really up for that fight, but then seemed to lack fire in the 2nd fight and looked completely gone from the 1st bell.

Im not trying to discredit Shane Mosley, i do like him as a fighter. He's one of my favorite modern fighters, but do think people overrate him on here just for the win over Antonio Margarito, i remember people were saying how bad he looked in the Ricardo Mayorga fight including me, now people are saying his back ? i don't buy it.

Andre Berto by close MD controlling Shane Mosley behind his jab.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but no one's talking about Pac vs Shane here. Pac is planning to retire after he fights Mayweather.

I haven't heard of anyone discounting Andre Berto either.

Make a poll and see how many people on this site, think Andre Berto will win. Infact im the only one i've seen that thinks Andre Berto would win.

[brucelee]

Im sorry but i am getting a bit tired of hearing, well Manny Pacquiao could fight Shane Mosley after the Floyd Mayweather Jr fight. People are already writing off Andre Berto's chances which is unfair IMO.

Andre Berto has a very good jab, something Shane Mosley has alot of trouble with. Miguel Cotto basically won vs Shane Mosley by just using his jab, so did Vernon Forrest so did Winky Wright.

Andre Berto is as fast as Shane Mosley and fresher IMO, Andre Berto has some underrated technical boxing skills. And he has some good pop to his punches.

The only real weakness i see with Andre Berto, is that he squares himself up too much on the inside. But i think he did improve on that somewhat vs Juan Urango.

I admit Andre Berto hasn't really beaten an elite name yet, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing so.

Shane Mosley is getting overrated too much IMO, he didn't look good in the Ricardo Mayorga fight and only fought in spurts, he looked like a finished fighter in that fight until the last round.

He looked good in the Antonio Margarito fight, but couldn't that be down to being a perfect stylistic match up for Shane Mosley. Plus Antonio Margarito not being as good without handwraps ? where was the thudding punching power like he had in the Golden Johnson, Miguel Cotto, fights ?

I didn't think Shane Mosley looked that good in that Miguel Cotto fight either, he was totally outboxed and only won rounds when Miguel Cotto cruised in the later rounds.

As for Luis Collazo fight well i thought Luis Collazo was being effective with his left hand, until he broke his best weapon his left hand. Now i know we can't say for certain how the fight would of gone, even if Luis Collazo hadn't had broke his left hand. But surely it would of been more competitive IMO it would have.

And now for Fernando Vargas fights, well he won the 2nd fight in good fashion. But Fernando Vargas was total crap in the 2nd fight, and was a finished fighter.

His last good performance was in the 1st fight, he looked real good and may of been winning the fight before his eye got completely closed. He looked really up for that fight, but then seemed to lack fire in the 2nd fight and looked completely gone from the 1st bell.

Im not trying to discredit Shane Mosley, i do like him as a fighter. He's one of my favorite modern fighters, but do think people overrate him on here just for the win over Antonio Margarito, i remember people were saying how bad he looked in the Ricardo Mayorga fight including me, now people are saying his back ? i don't buy it.

Andre Berto by close MD controlling Shane Mosley behind his jab.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but no one's talking about Pac vs Shane here. Pac is planning to retire after he fights Mayweather.

I haven't heard of anyone discounting Andre Berto either.

Make a poll and see how many people on this site, think Andre Berto will win. Infact im the only one i've seen that thinks Andre Berto would win.

LOL. And you can now hear what people are thinking?

[ICB]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but no one's talking about Pac vs Shane here. Pac is planning to retire after he fights Mayweather.

I haven't heard of anyone discounting Andre Berto either.

Make a poll and see how many people on this site, think Andre Berto will win. Infact im the only one i've seen that thinks Andre Berto would win.

LOL. And you can now hear what people are thinking?

WTF are you talking about i said im the only one, that i have personally "seen" pick Andre Berto over Shane Mosley, where the hell did you get "hear" from ?

[brucelee]

Make a poll and see how many people on this site, think Andre Berto will win. Infact im the only one i've seen that thinks Andre Berto would win.

LOL. And you can now hear what people are thinking?

WTF are you talking about i said im the only one, that i have personally "seen" pick Andre Berto over Shane Mosley, where the hell did you get "hear" from ?

Read yours post buddy. I've highlighted it for you.

[ICB]

LOL. And you can now hear what people are thinking?

WTF are you talking about i said im the only one, that i have personally "seen" pick Andre Berto over Shane Mosley, where the hell did you get "hear" from ?

Read yours post buddy. I've highlighted it for you.

I meant from people i know personally, and people on here. Your just being an asshole personally, you know full well exactly what i mean from that comment stop picking up on everything i say.

You've been doing it for awhile now, as i said you got a problem settle it on the hidden boards or PM me.

[brucelee]

WTF are you talking about i said im the only one, that i have personally "seen" pick Andre Berto over Shane Mosley, where the hell did you get "hear" from ?

Read yours post buddy. I've highlighted it for you.

I meant from people i know personally, and people on here. Your just being an asshole personally, you know full well exactly what i mean from that comment stop picking up on everything i say.

You've been doing it for awhile now, as i said you got a problem settle it on the hidden boards or PM me.

Honestly, I could not relate to what you're saying since i haven't read a post by somebody here who is discounting Andre Berto.

Just clarifying bro. You were putting words into our mouths.

[TheBranMan]

WTF are you talking about i said im the only one, that i have personally "seen" pick Andre Berto over Shane Mosley, where the hell did you get "hear" from ?

Read yours post buddy. I've highlighted it for you.

I meant from people i know personally, and people on here. Your just being an asshole personally, you know full well exactly what i mean from that comment stop picking up on everything i say.

You've been doing it for awhile now, as i said you got a problem settle it on the hidden boards or PM me.

When he looses an argument he resorts to going in circles. If you ignore him maybe he'll go offline and **ck-off to some pictures of skinny 18 year old Pacquiao.

[Taeth]

Im sorry but i am getting a bit tired of hearing, well Manny Pacquiao could fight Shane Mosley after the Floyd Mayweather Jr fight. People are already writing off Andre Berto's chances which is unfair IMO.

Andre Berto has a very good jab, something Shane Mosley has alot of trouble with. Miguel Cotto basically won vs Shane Mosley by just using his jab, so did Vernon Forrest so did Winky Wright.

Andre Berto is as fast as Shane Mosley and fresher IMO, Andre Berto has some underrated technical boxing skills. And he has some good pop to his punches.

The only real weakness i see with Andre Berto, is that he squares himself up too much on the inside. But i think he did improve on that somewhat vs Juan Urango.

I admit Andre Berto hasn't really beaten an elite name yet, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing so.

Shane Mosley is getting overrated too much IMO, he didn't look good in the Ricardo Mayorga fight and only fought in spurts, he looked like a finished fighter in that fight until the last round.

He looked good in the Antonio Margarito fight, but couldn't that be down to being a perfect stylistic match up for Shane Mosley. Plus Antonio Margarito not being as good without handwraps ? where was the thudding punching power like he had in the Golden Johnson, Miguel Cotto, fights ?

I didn't think Shane Mosley looked that good in that Miguel Cotto fight either, he was totally outboxed and only won rounds when Miguel Cotto cruised in the later rounds.

As for Luis Collazo fight well i thought Luis Collazo was being effective with his left hand, until he broke his best weapon his left hand. Now i know we can't say for certain how the fight would of gone, even if Luis Collazo hadn't had broke his left hand. But surely it would of been more competitive IMO it would have.

And now for Fernando Vargas fights, well he won the 2nd fight in good fashion. But Fernando Vargas was total crap in the 2nd fight, and was a finished fighter.

His last good performance was in the 1st fight, he looked real good and may of been winning the fight before his eye got completely closed. He looked really up for that fight, but then seemed to lack fire in the 2nd fight and looked completely gone from the 1st bell.

Im not trying to discredit Shane Mosley, i do like him as a fighter. He's one of my favorite modern fighters, but do think people overrate him on here just for the win over Antonio Margarito, i remember people were saying how bad he looked in the Ricardo Mayorga fight including me, now people are saying his back ? i don't buy it.

Andre Berto by close MD controlling Shane Mosley behind his jab.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but no one's talking about Pac vs Shane here. Pac is planning to retire after he fights Mayweather.

I haven't heard of anyone discounting Andre Berto either.

Make a poll and see how many people on this site, think Andre Berto will win. Infact im the only one i've seen that thinks Andre Berto would win.

I've been backing Berto, I think his skills match up very well against Mosley. I just have to wonder about his defensive abilities and his chin which MOsley will definitely test.

I would also like to note that I believe the Collazo Berto fought was a completely different person than the guy who faced Mosley, he was far better prepared, in better shape(came in the ring 6 pounds lighter) he looked faster, threw way more punches, and was a lot more willing to trade.