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Well i can't speak for Missy but im just guessing here, i think she would give him respect if he beat either of these guys.

Timothy Bradley vs Lamont Peterson winner
Nate Campbell
Juan Diaz vs Paul Malignaggi winner
Kendall Holt
Devon Alexander
Marcos Rene Maidana
Mike Alvrado

Any of these would be fine, and at some point. He has to revenge that KO loss to Breidis Prescott aswell.
Well let's look at some of the names you've listed....

Bradley

An SD over Witter and a win over Holt. Two fighter's who've collectively not really achieved all that much. I'll give Bradley credit for how he set about Nate Campbell but i don't think he excels in anything. Just a good solid, but very beatable fighter imo. Out of everyone on the list, i'd imagine Bradley would be the biggest scalp - but that's not saying much.

Malignaggi

Gained more fame from his losses than he has from his victories. Not beaten anybody of note. Didn't really deserve to beat Ngoudjo. Best win over Lovemore N'Dou. Wow. Then he rematched him and did much worse. Still, managed to blag a free hair cut out of it.

Holt

Managed to KO Torres with his head which to be fair, takes some skills. Otherwise spectacular MD and SD wins over Ben Tackie and D-Hop respectively. He also holds a win over p4p champ Mighty Mike Arnaoutis and actually was responsible for the funniest knockdown i've probably ever seen - Bradley. Belter. Looks a lot like the guy who has his bike nicked in 'Friday', so at least he has marketability on his side.

Alexander

The only name on his resume is an injured, faded Junior Witter who's ability was questionnable to begin with. Alexander clearly has talent - but so does Khan, only Alexander's resume is weaker. If Khan got hardly any credit for boxing Kotelnik silly, why would he get credit for beating Alexander?

Maidana

Lost to Kotelnik. Some say unfairly, some say justifiably. Nearly got chinned by a guy who doesn't really like Boxing in Victor Ortiz. Great fight. Not a great fighter.

Alvarado

Please explain how his record is any better than Salita's or Kotelnik's? How many top 20/30 fighters has he beaten?


It's not that any of the above fighters are bad fighters, because they are obviously not. But i don't see how any of them are that much better than Kotelnik, and Khan didn't get much kudos for that win. Infact he's got pretty much cock all for ko'ing Dimitry Salita inside 76 seconds. He'd have to beat that lot in the same night get any credit on here. That would be a shit hot prizefighter actually.
Well you said all that not me, i would personally give him credit if he beat any of those fighters. Devon Alexander, Timothy Bradley, Lamont Peterson, Kendall Holt, ETC.

Are respected names in the USA, and there a mix of good boxers and good punchers. Dmitriy Salita was not respected and got a gift off a fighter with a 10-2 record, and was floored twice by a fighter with 2 KO's.

Andriy Kotelnik is very mediocre and got a gift off Marcos Rene Maidana, and won his title off one of the worst title holders on modern history. And couldn't even beat the fighter Gavin Rees beat for the title aka Souleymane M'baye.

I gurantee you 100 percent, he would get plenty of respect from people. If he beat any of those fighters above, more so if he beat the top 4 i listed.

I heard he's fighting Zab Judah, thats good step up for him. A fast Southpaw, with some pop who's known in the USA.
I actually disagree with Kotelnik. He is well drilled and well skilled. His only problem is, he can be outworked. I actually thought he beat Maidana, whom i don't rate anyway. He's a hard-bastard but that's pretty much all he has going for him.

My point wasn't to rubbish your list - because infact it was a good list. My point is, after every fight, there is always a reason to take credit away from him. It's been like that right through his career. 2 years ago he wiped out Graham Earl inside 90 seconds and he got exactly the same amount of credit he got for doing the same to the WBO number 1 contender. Little.

I can see the same thing happening unless he wins a fight where he is a massive under-dog. That's not going to happen. It would be career suicide.

I think Judah is the perfect fight for him. But, i can think of lots of reasons why he won't get credit for beating him.