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    Default Re: Does Pwill drop or move up in your P4P rankings after Saturday's fight?

    I still haven't been able to watch the bout in it's entirety but no way he should drop. Martinez is a p4p talent who just doesn't have the wins to warrant being placed in the top 10.

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    Default Re: Does Pwill drop or move up in your P4P rankings after Saturday's fight?

    Martinez should be P4p already. I feel bad for him for being on the down end of a couple decisions. We all saw him beat Cintron and the majority of boxing fans saw him winning vs Williams. BUt that's boxing.

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    Default Re: Does Pwill drop or move up in your P4P rankings after Saturday's fight?

    For me Paul could be top 5 p4p now. Martinez may not have been well known to casual fans but he's extremely highly regarded by those in the know and was seen as the best at junior middleweight aside from Williams of course.

    Very close fight, Williams got the nod and solidified his reputation as one of the best from 147-160 lbs.

    Wins over Margarito, Quintana, Wright, Martinez and 3 world titles in two weight divisions, he's one of the hottest fighters in boxing right now.

    My top 5 would be.

    1. Pacquaio
    2. Mayweather
    3. Mosely
    4. Hopkins
    5. Williams

    I think Williams deserves to be above Marquez for now following the one sided nature of his last loss, even though it was a higher weight class.

    Of course I understand completely if others put Marquez above him.

    But he should definitely be number 6 at least. Actually I forgot Chad Dawson, you could make a case for him being number 6, I think their resumes are roughly even.

    Certainly Caballero, Cotto and Nonito 'Only one of my opponents has ever held a world title' Don-fuckingConAire are below the Punisher now no question.

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    Default Re: Does Pwill drop or move up in your P4P rankings after Saturday's fight?

    In my rankings he drops. I thought he was overrated to begin with but could have been a monster with the right training and a better trainer. It's hard to rank a lot of the newer champs on skill because they win so many fights on pure volume of punches thrown.
    Taking into account that this is the second guy who wasn't of the mainstream superstar status to give Williams problems; The fight took place above Martinez's weight division; and the fact that Martinez carried his hands low for most of the fight and countered many of William's punches handily and rolled a shoulder to deflect many of the big bombs over his head (detracts from the arguement that Williams would be the ultimate Floyd nemesis by many a boxing fan)-- all of that takes luster off of William's aura. Granted, there aren't a lot of fighters that will be able to take advantage of these flaws, but it became fairly obvious, that a fighter that could, was determined to, and carried his hands higher to fend off a good volume of punches that Martinez didn't... could make Paul Williams look like half or less than what many fans believe him to be... or in a worse case scenario, a fighter with the same counter punching style, the same resiliance and more pop could have repeatedly hurt and possibly finished off Williams.
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

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